Finding a Honda gearbox will not be easy
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How come we never see you on track? Presumably you don’t use Bookatrack or LOT for your trackdays?
Theres plenty on ebay…unless I’m missing something?!
It will probably be far two expensive at the moment for me anyway with custom driveshafts, flywheels and brackets.
Aah, sorry, Nick - I was just thinking about the K20A gearbox, not the later model.
Not done many this year (time!) and also been waiting on the rear ARB development, but normally go through BAT or other car owners club events (although I did a couple of easytrack ones the other year for my sins). Stopped doing the LOT ones a couple of years ago as I tend to go with friends that don’t own Lotus’s but I intend to do some next year.
Nick, pm sent
Guys - how much do you reckon a freshly rebuilt box with the factory fitted LSD worth?
1.5 k ??
I would say �1.5k would be about right and expect to get knocked a bit to say �1400
Thanks for that.
…I honestly thought it would only be worth half that when a celica box can picked up for not alot.
It is amazing how much they go for if it is an Exige box with the torsen LSD, seen them up for sale for �2k but I doubt you would get that, yes you can get scruffy Celica boxes for �350 but they are and also look 10 years old.
Personally I prefer the Celica gearbox as 6th is taller and it would probably have improved the car tax band on our cars.
Geary is working up a price for me on the civic type R gearbox conversion - should be able to get the first production kit early Jan. I was thinking it would be too expenive, but getting �1k for my gearbox does make it a lot more affordable!
Will look at ratios laters…from memory I think the JDM box has really short ratios, but the std type r box should be as close as the yota box.
I think the factory diff is a plated one not a torsen iirc ?
Just had a quick look at the gear ratios for the Type R…need to check if the is any variance in model year.
The civic box look perfect - closer ratio box than the C64, but with a higher 6th gear.
1 2 3 4 5 6
40 62 87 115 144 179 Civic Type R
45 68 94 120 150 172 Toyota box (C64)
44 71 101 129 161 197 VW box (02m)
The orginal sales blurb says Torsen-type LSD…I’ve got the literature.
Even better then !
But to get a Honda box with an LSD etc will cost at least �1k as well before the conversion plus fitting, you might still be upset with the cost yet
Geary has told me the kit (Incl. box) will be less than the new price of an OE box…although I’ve just found out the std gearbox is �3.5k+ VAT lol.
Jubu gears (�800), Exedy clutch (�300) and a lightweight flywheel (�300)is �1,400 in parts alone to keep the standard box but with uprated gears. If I get the the kit and type R box for �3k, then I will go ahead. I could then look at selling the current gearbox refreshed for around �1,200 to ofset some of the cost…thats my thinking anyway, could be wishful thinking though.
Also worth noting that the standard civic clutch is capable of over 300bhp and less than half the price of the exedy clutch. Same story with the JDM LSD for the civic.
I’m still not convinced your maths work, you don’t need a lightweight flywheel so take off �300, you needed the clutch anyway, and I would never suggest the standard clutch for the Civic, you will destroy it in no time, it is designed for FWD and nothing like the torque you have (it’s torque that kills them not HP) so the clutch will be the same money �300 if you get the gears direct they are also less than that. Finally you have not costed in rebuilding your gearbox to sell it. you are not going to save much if anything and will also be running with a totally untested upgrade
To be honest the standard Civic clutch is pretty good, plenty out there in Lotus’ without problems, even SC.
The honda gearbox is not unburstable. I know of a number of them that have given up, normally 4th gear - sound familiar? - and one car that is currently on its third, although it only ever gets used on track, on slicks.
Yet to try the VW one on slicks, but plenty of use on 48/888.