I do not want the poor chap dragged into a petty squabble, but for what it is worth he has confirmed the facts about his dealings with Simon Erland and they concur with those I have posted. He say he hasnt spoken with SE for 6 months or so and at that time left SE in no doubt that he no longer welcomes any dialogue with him.
He has confirmed that he is very happy with his engine and is philosophical about the whole episode.
I am sure that the last thing he will want is to be dragged to court, if he was he would be unequivocal about his point of view as expressed here so it would probably be a pointless exercise.
If it becomes necessary he would be prepared under duress ( ) ) to go into print to confirm this.
My more powerful engine is a fair match for the NA Hondas when used with my Quaife box. And I expect will be better with the quaife UCCR ratios (as Uldis uses I beleive).
Yes, just standard Exige box (CR).
Toying with the idea of the UCR kit from Quaife with a very long first gear but the added RPM’s for normal road driving are holding me back.
I think I’ll do it, as I’m going to have to change the synchromesh rings soon, (some crunching on 2nd and 3rd when shifting swiftly )
There’s no doubt that Steve#s box makes a tremendous difference to the way that the power is delivered, but it is hardly a cheap option and is not by all accounts indestructable either…
There’s no doubt that Steve#s box makes a tremendous difference to the way that the power is delivered, but it is hardly a cheap option and is not by all accounts indestructable either…
Dave
Exactly they are not cheap �3.5k IIRC and if Steve’s engine is considerably down on power or however King K would diplomaticaly put it. Then his monster engines will almost certainly create gearbox issues, as Uldis is already experiencing, with one of his less special efforts.
Cough, “The Duractec conversion suffers due to its retention of the Lotus gearing. Even with a CR box even the 2.3 duratec doesn’t outperform the NA Honda.”
The analysis I did with the Bosch simulation proved that the time lost during a shift is very painful. The simulation was set to a 0.2s shift time (which is pretty quick) but the time loss with the extra shift was very detrimental to straight line and circuit performance even though in-gear performance (as shown on the cascade plot) is better with a Honda.
It’s contentious because it depends on a lot of factors but I’m confident that my installation is very comparable. Having not tracked mine we’d have to look at Black Potatoes car to gauge track reliability though!
There’s no doubt that Steve#s box makes a tremendous difference to the way that the power is delivered, but it is hardly a cheap option and is not by all accounts indestructable either…
Dave
Exactly they are not cheap �3.5k IIRC and if Steve’s engine is considerably down on power or however King K would diplomaticaly put it. Then his monster engines will almost certainly create gearbox issues, as Uldis is already experiencing, with one of his less special efforts.
I already had synchromesh rings wear with the std engine.
Not related to engine power but more to how fast I want to shift.
Even now, shifting slowly (normally) tehre’s no crunch.
Shift VERY quick, gears crunch.
I woudl really need a dog box, but that would crunch at slow driving speeds then.
It seems you can’t have one AND the other.
Jonny, the 2.3 duratec install that Chris Horton has done on paper (looking at the cascade curves) still isn’t better than than the Honda NA. That would be for straight line speed. But on a track it may be as good since the simulator inidcates that the Honda will require more gearchanges per lap. The track performance will obviously be diffferent from circuit to circuit since no one gearbox is matched to all tracks!
The 2.0 Duratec is the engine that really suffers because of the gearing of the CR box.
Sorry Steve like the Uldis gearbox thread, I’d just been reading the the thread on seloc where you said the honda is better than the duratec and then saw this.
Either way as you say the c/r gearbox still isn’t great and King K has yet to say what he plans to mate his super dooper n\a let alone his Fi engines too, especailly when he implies they will show Bernard what an engine can do. I can’t see the PG1 holding up to over 300 BHP & lb/ft for too long.
As a postrscript and final posting on the subject of David Ward’s engine.
David is very happy with his engine and the way it was dealt with and rebuilt. He is categorically not happy however to have his name and confidential dealings with individuals plastered all over a public forum, especially one which he rarely visits.
Most of the information you have posted has been shown to be utter nonsense, just as it was last time you brought it up.
Simon, kindly stop using David’s name and incorrect details for your own personal agenda, I will not be mentioning him or his engine again on this forum, if you do so, do not be surprised at the reaction and consequences.
Simon, now you have had a chance to talk to Steve face to face you will know that the statement originated from and was cleared for posting by Steve himself.
Let that be an end to it and any further ridiculous statements about it being fabricated by me.
If you make further posts about me fabricating the statement then dont be surprised at the reaction and consequences.
This was my Exige,and for those interested these are the facts.I fitted the Simon Erland built K into my car and after some fuel pump problems it was running and was sweet(although still on axle stands and minus rear clam)just as I was about to fit the clam I couldnt help but want to hear the engine again.....it was running pretty badly,explosions and flames out of the exhaust.After talking with Simon we agreed that the best course of action was to take the car to Emerald since Dave could probably sort the problem and at the same time put a running in map into the ECU. With the car on the rollers,it was started...bad missfire,after a brief discussion and a bit of chin rubbing Dave swapped the plugs and hey presto....it was running. After 10/15 mins mapping dave shut the engine down being unhappy with the noise he was hearing......engine didnt want to turn off the key or rocking the rear wheels! also Dave noticed grass' inside the timing pulley cover,which turned out to be a small amount of shredded belt. Basically something had got behind the oil pump pulley and minced up.Thankfully the only damage was the pully.as regards what got in behind it,well thats a mystery…no bolts were missing,Dave definately hadnt left or moved anything in there.Mystery. Anyhow my engine should be back in soon,and once run in back down to Emerald. As regards HGF...it wasnt me and AFAIA no Simon Erland engines hafe suffered from it.
hope that clears things,
Jonny
So is it back together now? What is it actually making?
Don’t know yet - it hasn’t had final map - it was at Emerald for a running in map, like all my recent efforts, because they are so removed from anything that has gone before, Dave has nothing to approximate.
don’t worry ,you will see a thorough independant test of several of my engines before long, and then we hope to put this conversion buisness - out of buisness.
We will be waiting with baited breath for the results once its being run in then - at least its made it off the rollers in one piece this time then
and then we hope to put this conversion buisness - out of buisness.
In the name of peace and harmony would it not be more politic to say something along the lines of:
“After some KingK engines have proven themselves over time under road/track/race conditions and assuming both transparency of cost and professional parties with the skill and facilities to offer to undertake the work in a turn-key manner, then those looking for more power, tractability and longevity may have another viable option to consider”
Just my $0.02 of course, I’m pleased as punch with my red tractor engine
and then we hope to put this conversion buisness - out of buisness.
In the name of peace and harmony would it not be more politic to say something along the lines of:
“After some KingK engines have proven themselves over time under road/track/race conditions and assuming both transparency of cost and professional parties with the skill and facilities to offer to undertake the work in a turn-key manner, then those looking for more power, tractability and longevity may have another viable option to consider”
In the name of peace and harmony would it not be more politic to say something along the lines of:
“After some KingK engines have proven themselves over time under road/track/race conditions and assuming both transparency of cost and professional parties with the skill and facilities to offer to undertake the work in a turn-key manner, then those looking for more power, tractability and longevity may have another viable option to consider”
Perhaps best not to hold ones breath then.
no go on - I’m sure you’d look great in blue.
improving but still not really got the hang of it have you - you see the potential holder of breath was not in fact me, I know English is not your first language so attempts at flaming in English are always going to be a bit of a reach for you but keep on trying.
Or alternatively either get this book finished and find a vanity publisher happy to take your cash so we can have a good laugh or get back to your studio and sculpt a k series that can actually be documented performing as well as you claim.
Don’t know yet - it hasn’t had final map - it was at Emerald for a running in map, like all my recent efforts, because they are so removed from anything that has gone before, Dave has nothing to approximate.
To be honest, I’m quite surprised at this. Despite significant downtime due to a wiring error on my part, Dave managed to make a first draft map from scratch on mine in an afternoon. Its a conservative map that could be further optimised but its more than good enough to drive or trackday on. Did you do a partial rpm/throttle map for the run-in period or something?
improving but still not really got the hang of it have you - you see the potential holder of breath was not in fact me, I know English is not your first language so attempts at flaming in English are always going to be a bit of a reach for you but keep on trying.
Or alternatively either get this book finished and find a vanity publisher happy to take your cash so we can have a good laugh or get back to your studio and sculpt a k series that can actually be documented performing as well as you claim.
Hey johnboy, that post has nothing to do with engines and is just a pathetic insulting escalation of a humourous exchange. Take it elsewhere.
) ) to go into print to confirm this.