Dude ! sorry to hear about your motor but you gotta check your ego at the pit lane…Ok I’m done…If you want to see the stuff I’ve done to my build up check out moremonkey…better valve springs oil pump and so on
Thanks Frank, but it’s not about ego, it’s about having fun.
When I’m 80, I want to be able to waft home cosseted in my cruisemobile, switch on my media centre and give myself some treats like watching some “at the limit” stuff like chasing GT3s in my crazy little car.
I used to be very particular about my cars and hated it when they got damaged. The predecessor to the Exige was driven hard but kept pristine. Here it is in a shot at the top of an alpine pass � taken by me for a forum calendar:
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And you know what I learned? It’s only metal and plastic and can be replaced. Now I don’t really care if I get stone chips in the paint or screw the engine on the Exige. Yes, it hurts my bank account if I mess up big time � and that’s certainly a good reason to try to learn to drive it better, but, having fun is a priority. Like I’ve said before, I’m not ready for that 500SL or whatever yet!
I’ve not watched your link - not because I doubt your products but because I simply can’t use 'em here.
Fitted, here, they’ve quoted �10k minimum for a replacement.
Thats rediculous, When ##### blew their demo cars lump **** said it cost �2100 for a new service replacement lump from Toyota. Give a local garage another �1000 to fit it, job done.
As much as the technology inside the engine may be high tech the nuts and bolts whcih hold it in are simpler than ever (auto tensioners on the belts, nice multi way plugs and quick release on the fuel system etc.
You cannot pay �10K.
What upgrades are you planning? I can get you a set of forged pistons like Franks for a song (I pay �250 a set).
To be honest cant you rebuild the existing engine block with a new set of forged pistons, sleeve the bores and fit new rods then replace the head etc?
Dude ! sorry to hear about your motor but you gotta check your ego at the pit lane…Ok I’m done…If you want to see the stuff I’ve done to my build up check out moremonkey…better valve springs oil pump and so on
Thanks Frank, but it’s not about ego, it’s about having fun.
When I’m 80, I want to be able to waft home cosseted in my cruisemobile, switch on my media centre and give myself some treats like watching some “at the limit” stuff like chasing GT3s in my crazy little car.
I used to be very particular about my cars and hated it when they got damaged. The predecessor to the Exige was driven hard but kept pristine. Here it is in a shot at the top of an alpine pass � taken by me for a forum calendar:
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And you know what I learned? It’s only metal and plastic and can be replaced. Now I don’t really care if I get stone chips in the paint or screw the engine on the Exige. Yes, it hurts my bank account if I mess up big time � and that’s certainly a good reason to try to learn to drive it better, but, having fun is a priority. Like I’ve said before, I’m not ready for that 500SL or whatever yet!
I’ve not watched your link - not because I doubt your products but because I simply can’t use 'em here.
feckin hell
A very pragmatic apprach to life, and quite similar to mine
Thats rediculous, When ##### blew their demo cars lump **** said it cost �2100 for a new service replacement lump from Toyota. Give a local garage another �1000 to fit it, job done.
As much as the technology inside the engine may be high tech the nuts and bolts whcih hold it in are simpler than ever (auto tensioners on the belts, nice multi way plugs and quick release on the fuel system etc.
You cannot pay �10K.
What upgrades are you planning? I can get you a set of forged pistons like Franks for a song (I pay �250 a set).
To be honest cant you rebuild the existing engine block with a new set of forged pistons, sleeve the bores and fit new rods then replace the head etc?
They got the car this morning. Turned it over and it “sounded worse than a diesel at -20�C”, so quickly switched it off again. Told me that basically the whole bottom end is buggered. The (silicone coated)bores are damaged too (based on preliminary endoscopic eximnation through the plugholes).
Bemani sleeve the bores for the stage 2. I’m getting more info tomorrow, but I’ll bear your offer on the forged pistons in mind and mention this to them. Thanks
You always have to factor in the Swiss prices. I was looking into S/Cing the Speedster and getting forged pistons from the US was a real PITA (as others found). A Swiss firm was prepared to do me a set � for CHF2,000.00 i.e. about �800 at the time.
You can rebuild it or get a used one. 10k is waaay too much. If the MMC bores are damaged you put in new liners, there are a couple of companies that do them. Put in new oilpump and valves and whatever needs replacing.
Anyway if you track the car I would suggest you upgrade the valves and valve springs and the oil pump so in the case this happend again the engine will be able to sustain higher revs. From the noise it seems you have damaged it quite extensively. Probably loads of bent valves(exhaust are the weakest)and maybe even more damage if one of them fell in.
Speedy ckeck out the internals on monkey, sleeves, valve springs, rods forged Mahle pistons, oil pump and so on…There is nothing you can’t use in your rebuild…I won’t tell the Swiss DMV I sware.
sorry to hear about your misfortune SpeedyK. Although your outlook is fairly philisophical, one could argue that although your aim to have fun and learn, you will now have a far longer period without any fun at all due to your aim of having fun. I am all for your argument, but bad habits need to be addressed and worked out, if you know that you can’t heel toe then you need to have that in the back of your mind at all times and adjust your driving style accordingly. I am sorry but this is not fun it is blatant ignorance, that should only happen to someone on his firt time out on the track.
I am sorry if I sound a bit harsh but 10k to prove your frustration at an m3 driver is a bit much.
Speedy ckeck out the internals on monkey, sleeves, valve springs, rods forged Mahle pistons, oil pump and so on…There is nothing you can’t use in your rebuild…I won’t tell the Swiss DMV I sware.
nice idea, but I can really do without the (big) hassle of getting stuff from the other side of the pond only to find it is dud and nobody wants to carry the can. For example, I didn’t like the sound of the Mahle pistons episode, quote from moremonkey: “just got off the phone with Mahle…it’s true there IS an issue per them…”
Presuming its mainly the internals so you have all the sensors etc or bits that might be different, would it not be cheaper to get an engine off toyota?
Hi Speedy - rotten luck. Respect for taking it on the chin and looking ahead positively. Would it be worth your while checking UK sources for the engine? Surely the top end will be fine?
In practice, sounds like a recipe for trouble. The Lotus dealer would not be happy without a tidy mark-up, etc., etc. I’m sure they’ll tell me 1001 reasons why this is not feasible.
The engine and sensors are all completely std corolla. No parts have been changed by lotus internally. I had this discussion with their senior analysis engineer when I was trying to diagnose the root cause for my cam failure.
I’ll find out what the issue with the Mahle pistons is, but when I’ve orderred tham in the past they’ve arrived in about 2 days. Can you guess who I work for…
I wouldn’t get a Lotus dealer to do the swap. There aren’t any complex bespoke parts to change. To be honest I’ve got 5+ colleagues with Elises etc and plenty of use have done complete engine swaps at home without issue. Getting a competant sports cars specialist to do the work at half the dealers hourly rate makes plenty of sense. Its not like you have a warranty to worry about?
Speedy ckeck out the internals on monkey, sleeves, valve springs, rods forged Mahle pistons, oil pump and so on…There is nothing you can’t use in your rebuild…I won’t tell the Swiss DMV I sware.
nice idea, but I can really do without the (big) hassle of getting stuff from the other side of the pond only to find it is dud and nobody wants to carry the can. For example, I didn’t like the sound of the Mahle pistons episode, quote from moremonkey: > “just got off the phone with Mahle…it’s true there IS an issue per them…” >
Got enough problems without looking for more!
Hell look at it this way I took a bullet for ya, Mahle has corected the piston issue with new castings and I’v got 6,800 reckless unsafe canyon miles on my engine and it’s like fine whine…
Yeah, matey boy at MMS says the pistons are running 350-400BHP fine now in road cars and up to 500BHP for drag racers so a 350BHP tweaked Bemani would be quite nice.
The dealer swears that getting the motor from Toyota would not make it much cheaper.
Also got the figures for the Bemani upgrade today (from the quote Bemani gave my dealer).
If I want to upgrade, the upgrade alone (i.e. still need the �10k new motor) and without some of the extras they suggest (such as racing sump � as I have the Accusump; and sintered clutch (already got)) is a further �7k
So, to get back on the road in upgraded form = �17K
Very gently broached the subject with my wife � strangely, she feels she would get more from a home entertainment system upgrade… and, for some reason, the kids see it the same way
Don’t think I will be able to convince her, but I’m going to speak to Bemani directly tomorrow and see if there is any room for negotiation.
The “bangs for bucks” for that upgrade doesn’t convince me � and it would be a lot more normally � as the engine out and in is already factored in to the new engine quote and Bemani’s is without that.
Think I will have to accept that stage one is enough to have fun… and enjoy some good films* with my family instead!
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