[quote=SeanB]
Its no grief at all, you just have to use the correct ingredients. Im sure making a loaf of bread using gravel and lemon juice would be loads of grief too. [/quote]
Hahahahahahahahahaha
Not a baker then Sean??? Everybody knows you would need to add some expanding foam to stick it togather and make it rise - oh eerrrr
[quote=seriouslylotus][quote=SeanB]
Its no grief at all, you just have to use the correct ingredients. Im sure making a loaf of bread using gravel and lemon juice would be loads of grief too. [/quote]
Well I bought my ‘ingredients’ off of Sean and I must say that I seem to get a perfect loaf everytime now 
[quote=Benja]
Well I bought my ‘ingredients’ off of Sean and I must say that I seem to get a perfect [color:#FF0000]naan[/color] everytime now [/quote]
EFA
Sean’s right … the only problem is the S1 Motorsport master cylinder is impossible to find and if you do have one a seal kit is also impossible to find. There is one seal in there that is a real special it seems.
Thats why I’ve gone for the JSR pedal box solution wich solves the stupid AP /Lotus “you need to talk to them” situation.
[quote=AndyD]Sean’s right … the only problem is the S1 Motorsport master cylinder is impossible to find and if you do have one a seal kit is also impossible to find. There is one seal in there that is a real special it seems.
Thats why I’ve gone for the JSR pedal box solution wich solves the stupid AP /Lotus “you need to talk to them” situation.[/quote]
What about the different uprights/flanges/bearings, & of course a handbrake for those cars used on the road? 
Got the last of the rear uprights, flanges, bearings in stock here if you want to go that route.
Can supply a brick foc with every order! 
No im not into baking, my wife is though. I am into brakes in a big way though.
I have done a fair few track days in my S2 and i try pretty hard and I have to say I think the standard brakes are mint. I have standard rear setup and the super sport Lotus 4 pots and 308’s on the front (315’s now )
I use RS42 pads as I use the car a lot on the road, SRF fluid and braided hoses.
[quote=SeanB]No im not into baking, my wife is though. I am into brakes in a big way though.
I have done a fair few track days in my S2 and i try pretty hard and I have to say I think the standard brakes are mint. I have standard rear setup and the super sport Lotus 4 pots and 308’s on the front (315’s now )
I use RS42 pads as I use the car a lot on the road, SRF fluid and braided hoses. [/quote]
Snap! and totally agree, standard PP brakes are all you could wish for but do use SRF
I have just always felt the braking to be unbalanced since I put on the 4 pots, it is not that it needs more stopping power, just a better front to rear bias, adding the 2 pots to the back has improved it quite a lot, there might be more to get, but I’m not sure only time and a bit of testing will tell
What 2 pots do you have on the front? The proper S2 Lotus ones?
I have the proper Lotus 4 pots on the front and the Lotus 2 pots now on the back.
Right I’ve got this sorted now:
[quote=Mr Pesky][quote=AndyD]Sean’s right … the only problem is the S1 Motorsport master cylinder is impossible to find and if you do have one a seal kit is also impossible to find. There is one seal in there that is a real special it seems.
Thats why I’ve gone for the JSR pedal box solution wich solves the stupid AP /Lotus “you need to talk to them” situation.[/quote]
What about the different uprights/flanges/bearings, & of course a handbrake for those cars used on the road? [/quote]
The ingrediants are available, JSR and the Boyz
so.
does someone have a list of ingredients and an install guide to shift the two-pots to the rear while retaining a functioning handbrake ?
back on the matter of addressing balance with different pads F/R: today i went to clean the car and discovered another little surprise that the CL RC6 had left for me: a lovely spattering of brake dust flavour road spray dried into the rear. i’d already sunk probably 3 hours cleaning the wheels after these babies. luckily, auto glym wheel cleaner is safe to use on paint. but i’m taking those pads back out before the car moves off the drive.
so bottom line is i’m all ears for suggestions on the topic of better and more balanced braking which doesn’t involve race type pads.
and i do agree with those who say that the standard setup is not optimum in terms of balance - i once did some timed checks using engine braking to get the back down on corner entry and pulled almost two seconds out of one minute laps. not that it’s the be-all-and-end-all but if the potential is there, it would be nice to tap into it at the expense of service items like brakes rather than killing the engine & drivetrain.
[quote=motorhead]
and i do agree with those who say that the standard setup is not optimum in terms of balance - i once did some timed checks using engine braking to get the back down on corner entry and pulled almost two seconds out of one minute laps. not that it’s the be-all-and-end-all but if the potential is there, it would be nice to tap into it at the expense of service items like brakes rather than killing the engine & drivetrain. [/quote]
I’m not sure I understand? I always thought that the balance was set up with an assumption that braking is done in-gear where engine braking plays its part and not doing so results in too much front bias,…or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
Most people I know - myself included - would tend to use only very light engine braking on trackdays. Mainly a result of seeing clutches disintegrate and the the risk of buzzing the engine. An alternative and possibly safer approach is to find the balance by adjusting pads or as suggested here, calipers & discs.
OK understood, I thought you meant no engine braking (coasting) which would of course impact the anticipated bias.
Ok, so the trip to Spa went well and I now love the brake conversion with the 2 pots on the back. I just need a proper way of doing the handbrake so I can remove the boat anchors that are the old rear calipers. I am going to order a pair of the Hi spec spot rear calipers and then look at how to fit them. If it is anything more complex that a simple bracket I think JSR are going to get the car to design the conversion. Watch this space
If it works, I would deffo want to do the same on mine.
Hope the developement goes well.
Ex77