[quote=Podger][quote=Podger]I use these
Carbone Lorraine 4060rc5 Plus Pad
Carbone Lorraine 4115 Rc5 Plus Pad [/quote]
I have to eat humble pie , and admit, that my front pads, have delaminated, and stuck to the front discs, and I’ve had to break one up on the front wheel , to free it up ,to allow the wheel to rotate !!! 
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Oh not nice, hope it hasn’t ruined your disc 
[quote=Podger][quote=Podger]
I have to eat humble pie [/quote]
don’t forget the gravy 
and good on you for posting 
[quote=stevegreen][quote=Podger][quote=Podger]
I have to eat humble pie [/quote]
don’t forget the gravy
and good on you for posting [/quote]
X2
[quote=stevegreen][quote=Podger][quote=Podger]
I have to eat humble pie [/quote]
don’t forget the gravy
and good on you for posting [/quote]
Agreed, on both counts
come on, be nice…I think it’s a brave admission
Agreed. Would have been so much easier to say nothing and quietly put in something else.
The curse of pesky I’d call it 
Going with Mintex now , Carbon Lorraine have the delaminated pads , and are to report on their findings
An update on the Carbon Lorraine pads …they HAD NOT DELAMINATED, but had rusted to the face of the disc.I had been for a 20 mile drive in the car, roads were slightly damp, got home , left the car on the drive for a few hours, then garaged it. Two weeks later, went to move it , to wash the car, and the front wheel locked. Had I known what the problem was before removing the front wheel, and trying to free the pad with a screwdriver, I had to break the pad up to release it. I could/should have put the car on the road surface and done a Hillclimb start, but at the time, the wheel was just skidding on my garage floor in reverse.
Now Mintex pads fitted , but it’s quite clear the CL’s did not delaminate , but because they have such a high metal content , rusting to the disc was the issue
I know that this has happened to other’s on here , who wern’t running CL’s.
Just needed to clarify the exact position.
They do that all the time, usually not a big deal.
However, they have left a resin like deposit on my front discs after a heavy track session in the dry. I have not used the term ‘delamination’ to describe this as it has far too many syllables, but clearly this ain’t rocking.
It’s a shame because they do work well
[quote=Podger]An update on the Carbon Lorraine pads …they HAD NOT DELAMINATED, but had rusted to the face of the disc.I had been for a 20 mile drive in the car, roads were slightly damp, got home , left the car on the drive for a few hours, then garaged it. Two weeks later, went to move it , to wash the car, and the front wheel locked. Had I known what the problem was before removing the front wheel, and trying to free the pad with a screwdriver, I had to break the pad up to release it. I could/should have put the car on the road surface and done a Hillclimb start, but at the time, the wheel was just skidding on my garage floor in reverse.
Now Mintex pads fitted , but it’s quite clear the CL’s did not delaminate , but because they have such a high metal content , rusting to the disc was the issue
I know that this has happened to other’s on here , who wern’t running CL’s.
Just needed to clarify the exact position. [/quote]
Performance Friction have done this on mine,
[quote=IanM][quote=Podger]An update on the Carbon Lorraine pads …they HAD NOT DELAMINATED, but had rusted to the face of the disc.I had been for a 20 mile drive in the car, roads were slightly damp, got home , left the car on the drive for a few hours, then garaged it. Two weeks later, went to move it , to wash the car, and the front wheel locked. Had I known what the problem was before removing the front wheel, and trying to free the pad with a screwdriver, I had to break the pad up to release it. I could/should have put the car on the road surface and done a Hillclimb start, but at the time, the wheel was just skidding on my garage floor in reverse.
Now Mintex pads fitted , but it’s quite clear the CL’s did not delaminate , but because they have such a high metal content , rusting to the disc was the issue
I know that this has happened to other’s on here , who wern’t running CL’s.
Just needed to clarify the exact position. [/quote]
Performance Friction have done this on mine, [/quote]
Interesting on the PF comment, although which bit?
Nearly all pads will leave a mark on a disc when left, hot, cold, wet or dry, if you have a certain set of circumstances. Blame the EU for making pad manufacturers take out all the stuff that made them work really well. You know, lead, asbestos that sort of stuff. Apparently its bad for you. 
I always take car for a short run after washing to dry of the discs to avoid pads and discs becoming one. Mine also gets left in the garage for longish periods. I always leave it parked with handbrake off and every day or so just give it a nudge back and forth to keep pads free. I remember being at a dealers some time ago and seeing someone come in to pick up their new Elise. But they could not get the car out of the showroom due to both front discs being seized after it’s pre delivery wash. Red faces all round and one very unhappy punter. The polished floor did not help, front wheels just refused to rotate. They ended up jacking the front up and wheeling the thing out on the trolly jacks so the tyres could get some grip on the tarmac outside. Quite funny to watch…well for me it was.
Never ever had brakes sticking on any car I’ve owned !
I’ve had a couple of clutches sticking tho…
As JDS says ,It’s probably due to the sodding EU banning all things useful in life …
[quote=JDS][quote=IanM][quote=Podger]An update on the Carbon Lorraine pads …they HAD NOT DELAMINATED, but had rusted to the face of the disc.I had been for a 20 mile drive in the car, roads were slightly damp, got home , left the car on the drive for a few hours, then garaged it. Two weeks later, went to move it , to wash the car, and the front wheel locked. Had I known what the problem was before removing the front wheel, and trying to free the pad with a screwdriver, I had to break the pad up to release it. I could/should have put the car on the road surface and done a Hillclimb start, but at the time, the wheel was just skidding on my garage floor in reverse.
Now Mintex pads fitted , but it’s quite clear the CL’s did not delaminate , but because they have such a high metal content , rusting to the disc was the issue
I know that this has happened to other’s on here , who wern’t running CL’s.
Just needed to clarify the exact position. [/quote]
Performance Friction have done this on mine, [/quote]
Interesting on the PF comment, although which bit?
Nearly all pads will leave a mark on a disc when left, hot, cold, wet or dry, if you have a certain set of circumstances. Blame the EU for making pad manufacturers take out all the stuff that made them work really well. You know, lead, asbestos that sort of stuff. Apparently its bad for you. [/quote]
I ended up caught out on damp roads so when I put my car away there must have been some moisture on the disc, the rears “welded” up solid just as CL’s have done. They have not delaminated as some have described CL’s but the are a couple of small patches of pad material missing off a couple of edges of the pad, very small and nothing major and fine still to use but there was a nice imprint of the pads on the discs. PF97’s that you sold me on standard rears.
Not sure why anyone leaves the brakes on when the car is at home, mine just lives in gear and I never have a problem.
is that because your drive is FLAT?
[quote=jfk]
is that because your drive is FLAT?
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Don’t be silly, mine lives in tha garage (said the posh way)
Never leave mine on either
[quote=Boothy][quote=jfk]
is that because your drive is FLAT?
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Don’t be silly, mine lives in tha garage (said the posh way) [/quote]
ohh you mean SHED