Oil Catch Cans

The oil coats the inside of the I/C pipes and causes insulation issues - The pipes came off my car after 2K and sure enough there was a thin layer of oil coating the inside

Happy to facilitate the group buy.
I have an account with proalloy very happy to add these to the next order!!
anyone??? [/quote]

I’m in on this whoever is organising the GB

Just to remind people interested in he group buy, pm me your details and I’ll see what I can arrange through ProAlloy.

Rich

[quote=-Neil-]What is an oil catch can? - Answers

Neil. [/quote]
Enlightened !
But not convinced
:wink:

The oil coats the inside of the I/C pipes and causes insulation issues - The pipes came off my car after 2K and sure enough there was a thin layer of oil coating the inside [/quote]
It coats the inside of the intercooler and makes it less efficient in cooling ,the oil can even be blown into your intake .

^^^ suits me at the moment … too damn quick for me now !!!
:smiley:

Count me in, Rich ive pm’d you :slight_smile:

Right, I spoke to ProAlloy today and they are happy to ‘do something for us’. Lead time would be 2-3 weeks and I should have a price by tomorrow.

I’ll keep everyone who sent me a pm informed.

If you can get anyone else interested the price will obviously be less…

Rich

Normally love PRO Alloy stuff and I am a great fan of the Havehill Homo’s that are Wayne and Alex.

But three no no’s with a catch can in my opinion are:

  1. No site glass, so you have absolutely no clue if there is anything in it.

  2. No drain tube back to the sump. Why would you want to catch it and not return it to the sump, where it came from.

  3. The fact that you have to remove it to empty them sounds like a complete pain in the arse to me!!

I designed a catch can that we use on the Audi installs. (PRO Alloy make them for us) It bolts to the back of the block, so is low down and out of the way, takes feeds from the crank case and the cam cover, has internal baffling to stop any breathed oil going out of the atmosphere pipe and it returns directly to the sump, so no need for a site glass as there is never anything in it.

Get them to knock up something like that for you Toyota guys. Or give John a shout, he will design it and then get the PRO alloy guys to make it.

sadly there is no sump return in the yota engine, I do however agree with the lack of sight tube, I did mention this to Wayne after he made mine.

A return to the sump is not a difficult thing to do.

What do I know?
1.Not a fan of putting captured oil back into my sump.
2.Empying should not be so much trouble IMO after all if all is well there should not be that much in there anyway, I would just check mine after each track day.
3.Sight glass OTT IMO. so long as you check/empty on a regular basis.

Can I ask why you would not want to put oil, that has just come out of your engine, back in?

Because it isn’t pure oil…

�200 seems a bit steep when the Saikou Michi catch cans are $177 shipped (�110ish) they won’t do a group buy but they are a lot cheaper than the sector 111 and pro-alloy 1s
http://www.saikoumichi.com/product_line.html

Has anyone who has catchcans checked if they actually work?
before spending a small
fortune and adding more weight and complexity and introducing yet more pipes and unions which can fail, I would want to see if an intercooler remained dry ??
A thin coating of oil could actually be beneficial? Oil is a great conductor of heat …At least it was when I studied physics .

And the idea of not returning oil back could well bite you hard , a litre or so “collected” and NOT returned during a trackday could be the straw that breaks the camels back …(starvation) ??
20% of your oil trapped in coke cans = BANG …
I reckon its happened ??

OEM ccv systems return excess oil ??

I posted on the other thread “oil in my pipes” but for those interested…

I kept a fairly accurate record of the amount of oil collected - it was about 120ml for each 3k over 10k miles. The oil was always collected in only one of the cans, however not sure if it was from the sump pcv or the head return.

The collected oil however was black and very thick and you would not want to return it to your sump.

Sight glass would be very useful.

[quote=jfk]Has anyone who has catchcans checked if they actually work?

Seems to be a lot of following of sheep that goes on sometimes…

I am expecting a flaming for posting that by the way @ :wink:

And the idea of not returning oil back could well bite you hard , a litre or so “collected” and NOT returned during a trackday could be the straw that breaks the camels back …(starvation) ??
20% of your oil trapped in coke cans = BANG …
I reckon its happened ??
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My catch cans did contain some, but not much, oil before the failure. The intercooler pipes were dry but covered in soot, indicating that the oil was probably burning off rather than aspirating.

Its not as if fitting the catch tanks suddenly causes the oil loss, its just that you are catching what is lost before it goes to the intake. I’ll be keeping them after the rebuild. If the option is to catch rather than feed into the intake then I’ll catch thanks.

^^ interesting post …
I wasn’t directing the starvation issue directly to you tho .

Moreover I’m now left wondering which substance I’d prefer to have coating the insides of my delicate intercooler … soot or protective film of oil