Liners Dropped

you have never used plain engrish in your life.

come on - left to right which engine are which?

Of you want to discuss liners happy to for you to start a thread about it. All those years ago and still you have nothing to show.

So how many of the engines in that picture were built by me?.., lets have details and proof.

None. lets say it here for all to see or brand yourself a liar once again.

I have no compunction in calling you a liar, it has been proven here many times. The fiasco over my trips to Vibration Free, exposed by copy invoices, the lies about Fred Hadley’s opinion of me, esposed by a letter from him, the lies about Simon Thornley opinion of me, exposed by a posting from him, the petty lies over the valves used on Simon’s engine, exposed by Simon and Paul Ivey, the lies over the head used, exposed by Simon himself, the lies over liner out of round measuremtn, exposed as a schoolboy error but used to discredit.

There are many many more.

Making posts which try to distract from the question in hand and avoid answering that simple question put to you two pages ago wont wash.

The fact is that if you had any idea that any of those engines were mine you would have posted information to show just that.

You have no facts to substantiate the inference that any of those engines are mine, nor have I seen any more than one head which you, a proven liar, claim is soft.

You know that none of them were built by me and yet your obsession will not allow you to admit it.

As I have said before, you need help. To be caught lying over and over and over in pursuit of your petty agenda should heap enough shame for anyone to take stock of what they are doing. Only the unbalanced would continue to insist that they are right and everyone else is wrong when damning certain proof stares them in the face.

This dance with the devil can only continue while others provide a stage and audience for your massive warped EGO.

Stop lying.

Go away and come back when you learn to differentiate between lies and the truth.

Go away and come back when you have the balls to apologise for the many lies you have told.

Go away and come back when you actually have something new to say instead of regurgitating rubbish that has already been fully played out here and spun time and time again.

I am sure that most readers of this thread are just as sickened as I am by your pathetic malevolence.

Moderators, there is little information to be had here that hasnt been posted on this board over and over again, once again a potentially useful thread has degenerated into lies and recriminations do the detriment of the greater good and to feed someones obsession.

The source of the problem is clear and tiresomely faimiliar.

King_T is never going to own up to the obvious, it is beyond him.

Please muppet the thread…


Dave

I don’t tell lies

They are proven on this BBS for all to see. So that makes another one.

More rubbish…

Your petty disputes over HMI and balancing dont interest me nor I suspect anyone else here, they never have and they never will. If you dont like what Steve at VF had to say about his HMI work, take it up with him, they are his words posted on this BBS, not mine. Is that plain enough for you? now go away and get some therapy.

Considering I have never seen any of the parts from the engine you repeatedly mention as ‘failed’ despite many requests and considering that we only have the word of a proven liar, I think that any rebate to Mark in the face of your lies and spin was generous.

I am happy to talk to Mark at any time if he wishes to. But then we have debated that very subject at least 25 times here already, each time you end up with a bloody nose, running for cover, maybe you think we have all forgotten…

You say that 8 of my heads are soft, let’s be clear, all but one of those are customer supplied heads, the remaining one was traded in exchange from a customer. You go to great lengths in another thread on this very BBS to explain how all heads will fail and soften as a natural part of the cycle of K engine usage even at relatively low mileage and then to try pass the blame for the quite awful Rover engineering at my door, wake up to yourself. I don’t soften heads, they soften as a result of p*ss poor engineering and practices inherent in the engines as you are at pains to point out.

None of those heads were soft when fitted (I know because they are all hardness tested), the fact that they may become soft during use is according to YOU a racing certainty and since , again according to YOU, the majority of them have been fitted by others I have no control over the environment/use of PRT or otherwise…

So go and boil your head.

So once again you have avoided the question… how many of the engines in that picture (and remember you claim they are all Scholar blocks, so Mark’s cannot be amongst them) were built by me, let’s have names and details… put up or shut up.

Dave

Does anyone ever bother to pick the bones out of these discussions or are the contributors simply wasting electrons…

probably not - but they do get refered to quite often in other situations, its handy to have a public record of a guy thats so inclined to lie and then hope everyone forgets about it.

Destined for muppetry I think, all useful information has already been disseminated long ago…


Dave

Does anyone ever bother to pick the bones out of these discussions or are the contributors simply wasting electrons…

Trouble is Mike, that DVA’s reputation etc is constantly being challenged, & he is entitled to respond as long as the thread is in the public domain.

Also, Johnboy makes a very valid point…

Does anyone ever bother to pick the bones out of these discussions or are the contributors simply wasting electrons…

I look at the pictures long and hard, sometimes I even pretend to know what I am looking at and start explaining bits to my gf…she then gives me look that says I’m talking bollocks and we move on

Does anyone ever bother to pick the bones out of these discussions or are the contributors simply wasting electrons…

I do, with a high degree of care and attention during the early days of the debate but these days its more of a quick scan than a full read. I am non-partisan in this, since I bought an S1 that already had a DVA-fettled engine (head work plus rebuild done in collaboration with the previous owner) on the basis that it was likely to bypass the evident problems with a stock 190bhp VHPD. Two years, 8000 miles and numerous track outings later, it has yet to let me down, which definitely counts for something. However, the original King-K article seemed to make sense in many respects but despite my best efforts at decoding everything that has followed, the personal aspects have swamped the technical ones and the net effect that I’m no more confident in the long-term reliability of a K-series engine (mine, or any other) than I was in mid-2005.

At the beginning I had hopes that the two main protagonists of this drama could completely drop the emotional/personal aspects of the argument, but it’s fairly clear that won’t happen now. This is a sad thing for me and those others who want to stay with K-series power. Put it this way, if there was a viable alternative that provided good power and rock solid reliability without incurring a weight penalty or generating other issues to do with weight distribution, installation etc, then I would have been on it like a shot, and that’s entirely due to the uncertainty which this slanging match has done nothing to reduce.

Kind regards,

-= mike =-

Does anyone ever bother to pick the bones out of these discussions or are the contributors simply wasting electrons…

I do, with a high degree of care and attention during the early days of the debate but these days its more of a quick scan than a full read. I am non-partisan in this, since I bought an S1 that already had a DVA-fettled engine (head work plus rebuild done in collaboration with the previous owner) on the basis that it was likely to bypass the evident problems with a stock 190bhp VHPD. Two years, 8000 miles and numerous track outings later, it has yet to let me down, which definitely counts for something. However, the original King-K article seemed to make sense in many respects but despite my best efforts at decoding everything that has followed, the personal aspects have swamped the technical ones and the net effect that I’m no more confident in the long-term reliability of a K-series engine (mine, or any other) than I was in mid-2005.

At the beginning I had hopes that the two main protagonists of this drama could completely drop the emotional/personal aspects of the argument, but it’s fairly clear that won’t happen now. This is a sad thing for me and those others who want to stay with K-series power. Put it this way, if there was a viable alternative that provided good power and rock solid reliability without incurring a weight penalty or generating other issues to do with weight distribution, installation etc, then I would have been on it like a shot, and that’s entirely due to the uncertainty which this slanging match has done nothing to reduce.

Kind regards,

-= mike =-

Mike, Well bloody said mate, I’m inclined to agree strongly.

It’s very difficult to know how to move forward. Regardless of what the actual truth is about the relative claims (which is a separate matter on which I have strong views) it’s difficult to see how to prevent these threads always having similar content. The only ‘solution’ I see is a 3rd party intervening and giving an overview of peoples views perhaps with links to previous key threads so that readers can review and make up their own minds without having to go through the debate again.

so that readers can review and make up their own minds without having to go through the debate again.

The conclusion I’ve come to from this saga, is that there is no way I ever want another K series in my car. To get a K series to perform well, & reliably, for my purposes is simply uneconomic i.e. >60K miles in 6 years, including around 60 trackdays. My car is well used, but I’ve never skimped on the basic stuff, like oil changes! If me tractor engine goes pop, it’s simply a case of chucking the old one away, & fitting a new one for less than �2K, all within a matter of days. No comparison to costly K rebuilds, & their associated long delays.

I’m sorry if it seems like a war, but I think you will find that most of my posts which fit into the category described are in defence rather than attack.

If I see a post which I consider to be incorrect or that contains innacuracies then I feel honour bound to respond with other facts which might give a more balanced view.

Why the same old stuff has to be regurgitated time and time again is beyond me, the end result is always the same and it seriously devalues the BBS.

Over the course of the last couple of years I have received a very large number of emails and even more 'phone calls from members who are unwilling to post on the BBS because of a certain persons responses, some of them are this persons customers.

This surely detracts from the boards purpose which is to disseminate information in a productive and civilised manner.

Many of the persons who have been misquoted and attacked are not board members and have no means of defence, nor a means to express their true point of view , some have approached me with their true views which I have posted here to clear up points. It seems we are destined to play these tired old scenarios out over and again because of intemperance.

In some postings I have used strong language but not unless this has been backed by the facts. I do not like propaganda and lies and that is a view that I know is shared by many readers of the BBS.

I have suggested that the thread be ‘muppeted’.

The original point was about Scholar conversions; all the relevant information was posted within the first few postings together with an invitation for prospective customers of Scholar to speak to real owners who have direct experience of Scholar blocks to get their point of view.

The rest is just detritus.

Dave

Same old rubbish… do you really think that anyone gives a toss? No matter how many times you flog a dead horse, it is still dead.

If you want to make a point about HMI TAKE IT UP WITH VIBRATION FREE, THE WORDS PUBLISHED ARE THEIRS AS ARE THE HMI CRANKS. is that clear enough?.Those persons who have HMI cranks have them through association with VF, not you. I really dont care about your petty disputes and nor , it would seem, does anyone else.

Now for pity’s sake give everyone a rest from your incessant ranting. You sound more and more deranged.

And please tell us which of those engines in that photograph were built by me. Names and details please.

Dave

The dead engines, the bad practice are all yours dva

I see, so which engines in that photograph were built by me, names and details please? Answer the question put to you… or be shown once again to be a liar.


As far as the heavy metalling analysis is concerned - you have deliberately and maliciosly spun a story.

You are quite mad, the references to HMI are from Steve at VF, but then every sane memeber of this BBS knows that already, how empty your life would be without someone to feed your obsessions and blame for your repeated embarrassments.

You know the truth, so does Bernard, your behaviour is shameful

What utter rot… take it to Steve at VF, I’m typing this slowly so you will understand, I couldnt give a fig about your petty disputes over who did what and when. The facts are that Steve does HMI insertion to the K series cranks for customers, not you. HMI is not a new idea and he is well placed to do it. If you dont like it, tough, get over it, just trying to blame others for all your aborted and hare-brained schemes is just plain daft.


if you want to dispute the scholar practice, lets go to court.

I really couldn’t care less and as for going to court you have to be barking. My own experiences with the Scholar blocks I have seen is somewhat different to yours and I have many many many happy customers with Scholar blocked engines (amongst the most powerful K’s built) I am sure they are happy with their engines and that surely is the point.

I have the blocks and data waiting, and believe me a number of ex Rover staff are only too keen to give expert witness against you and scholar

Take it up with Scholar, I’m past caring… go away and spin up some more lies.


you can bully, and twist all you like but the truth will out

Coming from a proven liar like yourself who has suffered the ignomy of the truth coming out time and time again I can only say that that is a careless statement.

People in glass house shouldn’t throw stones.

Dave