Anyway, I guess nobody has mentioned this but, it’s great to have you back Simon!
simon, 400hp from a k? I assume you mean the 2.0 and not the 1.8? Would this be an n/a engine?
Simon - your not talking about the 1.4L turbo K are you now ?
4OO bhp is ooooooold hat from a K - done 8 years ago and both engines running around as strong as ever. but mean to try with sc too
simon
400 BHP eh ? 8 years ago eh ? Hmmmmm interesting. So who’s engine is it then ? Any chance of any power curves ?
I assume it was that speed record car that somebody put together. Getting an engine to produce that kind of power and last for a few miles not particularly difficult. I guess that by still running as strong as ever you mean that it still starts up ?
Bernard
Not really, the K is in most iterations stressed by poor build and non oe componants which are wildly out of std Rover tolerances let alone the desirable tolerances for a race engine. Poor tolerances = stress [see forthcoming post on Uldis’s engine] It would be easy for instance to produce a 400bhp K less stressed than any VHPD or current tuned K .
The honda installation appear to be about 60 to 70 kg heavier than a moderately prepped K. proof of which is coming very shortly, consequently I would always expect a 200bhp K costing 4 grand ish to always be quicker than a 220bhp honda, and if built proprly more reliable , quieter and smoother, but again proof coming…
simon
If the std. Rover components and build are so great then why do all the cars with K-series have bad reliability Simon???
60-70kgs heavier than a K… WTF kind of pills are you taking? And since when has a 200bhp K been anywhere near a standard Honda, have you ever been in a Honda? Remember Ive been in a car with one of your engines and, whilst being better than a standard VHPD (which isn’t difficult), is nowhere near a standard Honda in any respect.
Well Randy the PROOF is coming very shortly and no you havn’t ridden in a car with an engine of mine as it should be, for a start Uldis put a cat on it and a partially collapsed one at that because he was , completely uneccessarily worried about noise. So not only would his engine not rev as it did without the cat but lost him a whole pile of top end and torque…he did tell you that,
You were quick that day because you were on slicks. Dean Lanzanti tells me slicks over A048s were worth 6 seconds at Croft to him. And I have driven a hoda elise, yep it idles very nicely compared to one of the std tuned Ks, a 160 or vhpd, not hard to put right with a K but the honda felt rough by comparison to one of my engines - understandably, it’s just a std production engine and mine are blueprinted [see forthcoming post on Uldis’s engine] and the otherwise std hondaelise weighed over 800kg with 23L of fuel, 60 kg heavier than a std elise ,and yes you can definately feel it on track. But I have more proof of this coming, proprer cornerweights for 2 cars…Bernard the engines have been out there for years , you should have known about them but don’t worry there will be a full spec, photos, curves,etc etc for the book, in fact, in due course why don’t I arrange especially for you to drive one of these cars…seriously
Don’t want to get dragged into this now it’s too time consuming, but there will be some substantial posts coming, …including that specific challange for you Bernard,
simon
There is no way that slicks are 6-seconds a lap quicker around any circuit (we have done back to back and they are worth 1-2 secs) and you also the slicks that were on my car had done a good 6-hours of track time before Croft so were shafted. Not suprising for that sort of rubbish to come from you though.
I’m well aware about Uldis’ CAT at Croft and I doubt it would have made any meaningful difference. A few BHP doesn’t have such a big effect on lap time.
As for Honda engines feeling rough… first time ive ever heard that .
The rough comment is a odd one, Honda’s iVTEC means that they can use a less agressive cam lower down the revs and more agressive up the revs…
…Now personally I like the VHPD / S160’s rough as a bag of nails idle, but that can’t be changed unless you put less agressive cam’s in, then it’s 100% IMpossible to get the same amount of air at higher revs, so for more power, you need suitable cams, which will result is poor idle and power lower down…
…That is how it works with twin solid cams, I can’t see how you can change the laws of physics captain! You’ll never get a smooth idle unless you take the m’bike approch and say 1600 rpm is a suitable slow idle
The cam is only a small part of the story but the proof is in the eating so would you like to come down some time and sit in a properly fettled K?
They run creamy smooth.
seroius offer
simon
So is Uldis’ car not a ‘properly fettled K’ then?
Is the pope German???
Absolutely would! Where abouts in London? Drop me a mail on mark dot mailer at m-theory dot co dot uk (swapping the dots and at’s for . and @ of couse )…
As you say, proof is in the eating so would love to!
I did a video overlay of Randy and myself at Spa. I’m on Toyo road tyres and Randy is on slicks. Track was damper for Randy, but I was only on my second lap of the day (hence big lift offs at Eau Rouge and Blanchimont ) and two up. Randy no doubt is a quicker driver than me to boot.
You’ll see there’s not as much difference as you might think.
19megs - the link is limited to 7 days or 25 downloads whichever comes first.
http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=329KF2YJQWVYQ1494X758VH6W6
p.s. Engine went pop the following lap
Oh right, because his engine seemed to idle much like a vhpd. If you want to do a Honda comparison you are welcome to use my car…
All sounds good to me, just keep me posted and all things being equal I’ll be there
I’m up for it and more than happy to run 48’s. Can we get a proper driver involved though as opposed to some spotty journo?
Bernard the engines have been out there for years , you should have known about them but don’t worry there will be a full spec, photos, curves,etc etc for the book, in fact, in due course why don’t I arrange especially for you to drive one of these cars…seriously
Don’t want to get dragged into this now it’s too time consuming, but there will be some substantial posts coming, …including that specific challange for you Bernard,
simon
Yeah I know about Adrian Newey’s and Mark Waldron’s cars. Adrian’s blew up on a regular basis and cost �80,000 to develop, it made about 280 BHP I heard. Mark’s was just a sprint engine and blew up fairly often too, it made about 320 BHP. What others are there then ?
I’m up for a drive, anytime, anywhere. Not New Zealand though !!
I have to agree that the K can be made super smooth if you spend the money on it. Steve B’s engine loves to rev and pulls well through out the rev range. But look what it cost to do it.
Bernard