Honda conversion resale value?

Mark

I know you’re not having a go at me - I’m just a punter too!

I genuinely don’t know what problem you experienced with your’s ie shaft or cv joint. Leaking grease from cv joints had been an occasional problem, right from the days of the first conversions eg Russ’s car suffered from it in 2003, when it was a road car.

My own experience has been to replace both sides’ shafts/cvs - the first at about 8K miles when grease escaped from the rubber boot & the cv joint collapsed, & the other one at about 20K miles when the shaft sheared at the outer end in the cv joint. Both those shafts were of the “early” variety, which as I said above, have been superceded, & fingers crossed…

Rob,

On mine the LH shaft sheared at the outer joint (it was also bent!), however it did it as I went to accelerate across a carriageway from the centre reservation on a dual carriageway, so it actually sent me across the carriageway at walking pace just as a rather large articulated lorry was heading towards me. Thankfully there was nothing in the outside lane as I had got as far as the inside lane by this point so the truck was able to pass me by, however if the truck had had to brake it would certainly have hit me side on.

As you can guess my attitude on this is not that great. The shafts that were supplied were, to be frank, complete [censored]. The material is not good enough and the design of circlip grooves is very poor. These were supplied in good faith via the Edwards as it was what rthey fitted to Chris car (and he’s sheared 2) and I guess are fitted to some of Tony’s cars (as he was supplying them), and judging by your comments you’ve had some as well.

I’m getting no information coming back about this and as such am becoming more and more pissed off. If it is known these were a poor design then I think I’m owed some new shafts, but I’m not holding my breath.

Sorry to hear that - its not something I had heard at all.

I would agree that you should expect redress for that.

Do you know what driveshafts they are using?

I have sat in and waggled a few of your levers and I think it would be something that would genuinly put me off.
Sean…

LOL, yep that would put me off also

Its been 5 years now and not managed to fluff a change yet - the lack of centre can be weird but once you know were the gears are its not as if you ever actually use it? Once across the gate and back and you know were everything is.

As a consumer unit/solution its not ideal I agree.

As a consumer unit/solution its not ideal I agree.

Yeah, you have to forgive Sean, he was brung up on Fords.

Back to the Driveshaft / CV issues …

The using a high temperature CV grease is kinda important …

Seems there are quite a few possabilities and prices - but standard stuff is not going to be good enough

Just for final clarity, here is my driveshaft.
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Johnboy,
Do I know who is using what shafts?

Mark

Thats exactly the same spot both of mine broke !!

If you speak to Martin Edwards he should have some of the special shafts i sourced for my car.

Mark

Thats exactly the same spot both of mine broke !!

If you speak to Martin Edwards he should have some of the special shafts i sourced for my car.

Chris,

I now have GKN shafts from Sinclaires.

Just for final clarity, here is my driveshaft.
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Johnboy,
Do I know who is using what shafts?

Well it was originally who are sincs using (i.e. whose was edwards boys supplying them) but you have cleared that up.

Its strange they should end up copying Joes - to me that looks just like the protohype raving drive shaft and I was sure a NZ PR set broke which might have warned them off the design, which to be honest looked a bit naff to start with anyway.

Well it was originally who are sincs using (i.e. whose was edwards boys supplying them) but you have cleared that up.

Its strange they should end up copying Joes - to me that looks just like the protohype raving drive shaft and I was sure a NZ PR set broke which might have warned them off the design, which to be honest looked a bit naff to start with anyway.

This was why I was being careful what I posted to stop false rumours.

  1. Edwards didn’t have the shafts made, they bought them from Tony Stansfield as a useable shaft, only thing they didn’t make/design themselves.

  2. Sincs bought their own shafts from GKN after my car, mine was the only car using these that they built.

Just a shame about the driveshafts that one Northern Honda supplier has been giving to people.

Like I said, that’s a problem from the past, now sorted.

Pesky
I’m too dumb to work this out for myself is it too sensitive an issue to explain on this BBS? Maybe I need to spend more time on some other forums… nah…

I wouldn’t mind knowing what has been done to sort out this issue… have they changed height of engine in the bay or something else to alter the driveshaft angle? Or is it just beefier CV’s that are being used? And what was the shame about the Northern dirveshafts?

Rox

Problem sorted = GKN driveshafts, now used instead of the earlier ones (similar to those in Mark’s pic).

cheers Pesky

just read the whole thread now and i get the bit about northern driveshafts and you’ve just told me the other bit

cheers

To go back to the original question - I agree the more proven the the conversion the more it would be worth. For sure.

So IMO MSC would take the lions share at this point. BUT the other conversions are not that far behind them. Lots of hard miles are being put down and I forsee there not being a lot of difference overall

But as always you pays yer money…

TO pick up on this old thread …now time has passed and issues might be sorted …which Honda conversion should I go For??? …bearing in mind my Heast Janglia location???+
Could my K days be numbered?

Audi

Audi

Got it running properly yet?

Will be interested to hear how you get on at Santa Pod, with the Ship’s Anchor holding you back

no dont be silly its my car so its still broken but i will get it fixed . im sure it will be faster than my Honda one though. i think ill be in it sunday at donny if it gets me that far.

UP

I now have GKN shafts from Sinclaires.

I still haven’t used my car for ages due to driveshafts problems. I am enquiring with Sinclaires abour these.
My conversion is a MSC one. Do you think the Sinclaires’ driveshafts would fit or is it an entirely different angle, length, etc… ? Would I have to change also engine mounts ?
Thanks.

The link up kits use different drive shafts now - are yours the new or old ones? You might be able to get some from geary @ eliseparts?

So IMO MSC would take the lions share at this point. BUT the other conversions are not that far behind them. Lots of hard miles are being put down and I forsee there not being a lot of difference overall

But as always you pays yer money…

I think the issues highlighted on this thread, and know about elsewhere suggest that more recent cars have mods that earlier cars don’t have; and perhaps the kit that has sold the most has more mods - not by dint of being any worse but rather by more feedback from higher combined mileage feeding into a refined design & the higher the turnover of kits the more money is available to sink back into R&D. So I’d be as interested in knowing the age of the conversion as the name of the converter.