Well I have just broke my own rule and posted on a Seloc Audi thread. I have tried to be helpful, so lets see how long it takes before I wake up with a horses head on my pillow!!
Pesky, before you say anything about my horses head comment above, remember Helen does read this and she will kick you in the nuts at Oulton park!!!
I’m not worried Sean… Helen & I have an understanding* 
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On top of Franks response I think a lot of people (like me) want to know how Komo-tec came up with these maps in the 1st place. If they can create a map for Induction & Exhaust then why the hell can’t they do custom maps for any Elise/Exige Toyota ECU?
There has been too much BS in the past with regard to solutions from ForcedFed, Silverstone Performance, … everyone claimed big things but many didn’t deliver.
[quote=blacktoy]On top of Franks response I think a lot of people (like me) want to know how Komo-tec came up with these maps in the 1st place. If they can create a map for Induction & Exhaust then why the hell can’t they do custom maps for any Elise/Exige Toyota ECU?
There has been too much BS in the past with regard to solutions from ForcedFed, Silverstone Performance, … everyone claimed big things but many didn’t deliver.
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Without getting into another long drawn out one 
Is it not their right not to tell you how they got/developed them? Charlie wont tell you how he cracked the ecu all we know is he can.
I would say that as there are many Komotec 280S and 300S kits out there all running well and proven to be ball park claimed figures on the RR that they know something. Not to mention the fact they can flash the cable throttle NA’s (lotus dont even offer this) shows that they know something about the ecu.
I just dont get why we have to have this over every other product, nobody expects Sinclaire to give away the secrets to their methods why should anyone else?
cheers
Boothy
Sean well said mate I totally couldn’t agree more Exiges.com rocks!
So what�s the best option for us of the NA exige, Lotus or Hanger111…aren�t they the same? The GT Spec + options would seem to be the next most affordable followed by the mega hike the Katana offers. Then there�s Komo-tec and JSD (What�s this one?). Or would it be better to send your car to Lotus Motorsport. The Katana looks to be �2k less than the Komo-tec for the same power and I�m sure Lotus wouldn�t be cheap and what would the output be anyway 220 or 240 or 260bhp. GT Spec works for me, the more practise and tuition I get the less I need the extras horses…I just seem to crave the extra horses 
fyi
Lotus tuning
OMG I went away for a couple of days & all hell breaks loose:
Well, after all the hullabaloo, we thought it was best to release a statement in order to set things straight on here.
So here goes :-
To make a clear definition the word ‘tuning’ does not necessarily imply ‘real time tuning’
Tuning engine management systems was performed in an off-line manner (run the car, turn it off, make a change, run again etc) for many years and for a number of ECUs this method is still used, as the only option, particularly when cracking engine management systems that are not designed to be reprogrammed once in use.
However, we can tune the EFi T4 and T4e systems in real time. We have access to all tables, including full Cam angle control, MAF (Mass Air Flow) correction, high & low octane ignition tables and the full compliment of fuel tables. This allows us to offer a CUSTOM tuning service, our method is such that we ‘tune’ the system in real time on our Dynapack Chassis dynamometer, then power down the ECU and ‘reflash’ our real time developed tune into the ECU permanently.
This solution has worked perfectly for us in every application we have seen so far.
Up until now we have not offered a basic out of the box re-flash for for the N/A cars for Customers looking to simply move the cam point on their car. However, as we have now discovered that there are a number of improvements that can still be made to the basic available reflash and following the obvious demand for such a product we have decided to offer a postal service for a basic reflash for a known, good map and altered cam point.
To that end we are considering pricing at this time and in addition would hope to offer an option of a ‘before & after’ dyno power run for those that require this.
We are confident that we are the only company in the UK (& possibly Europe) that can tune the Lotus EFi system in real time, with full access to all the maps & data in the ECU at the moment.
I hope that this clears up the ‘technical’ side of things,
On a more personal note Wayne & I have known Marianne & Greg of Hangar 111 for a number of years and always considered them to be to be ‘Freindly Competition’’ and have no axe to grind with them or their Company.
We are also Freinds, albeit long distance ones, with Frank & have found him instrumental in breaking through the ‘bullshit’ as he is so fond of calling it & putting his money where his mouth is in order to further Lotus aftermarket Research & Development, which I think it is important to remember, as it enhances the options available to all of us within the Lotus Community.
Unfortunately as I have told him myself, his brash New York manner does not translate well in the UK.
(I have met him in person tho’ and he is in fact a Sweetie. who loves his car.)
If anyone has any questions or queries about anything mentioned on here please do not hesitate to call us on 01708 343904 or ask away on here
& I will answer you honestly.
Regards Gill
@Sinclaire
Johnny, the JSD is a rotrex supercharger solution that’s still in development mule status (has been for months AFAIK) so you may as well discount it until there is a few proven kits out there.
I know that what Sincs can do is real as it is in my car as we speak, I can’t confirm or deny the ability of the other suppliers ability to create true custom maps. The only thing I can add is that when I was trying to find a way to make the best of my planned upgrades nobody else was able to create a custom map for my car apart from Sincs and I spoke to all of them that had possible options available, I even left my car with one of the tuning houses for nearly 2 weeks for them to proclaim they had no idea where to start
Now got 18 people signed up, anyone on here want to get us closer to the magic 20?
You weren’t the only lied to Ade
And hereby lies the problem/bullshit that Frank was talking on about on SELOC. Many vendors claimed to provide custom tune’s but nearly all of them couldn’t. Frank just said it in a more direct way LOL
Those closer to this probably don’t find this as amusing “LOL”.
Frank’s attack was not at the many vendors who claimed to provide custom tunes and were unable to deliver. It was to the supplier who delivered the first non Lotus alternative tune available for the NA cars in the UK. This was a map developed specifically for those with exhaust and induction mods. No bull.
Bottom line is H111 and Sinclairs are offering different things to different people at different price points.
We know that you have the Katana and are very happy with it. I’ve got the GT200 and am also very happy.
Sincloc gets better, Sinclaire put up a thread about lotus tuning and ask us to ask away with questions and the thread is locked. Talk about protecting one and not the other.
Also they are now suddenly going to do a lower cam change flash because they see there is a demand for one, there was me thinking they were total BS.
Boothy
Sinclaires made a statement to clarify what services they offer. If you’ve got a question call them up or start a new thread.
I think your taking the Sincloc thing a bit too far. The only person who was having a pop at H111 was Frank and Frank has a pop at anyone. Pretty much everyone else including me was just stating what the difference was between the services that H111 and Sincs provide. Not everyone is educated in the ways of what an ECU flash vs an ECU tune is. For me it was a lengthy decision to commit upwards of �5k on an aftermarket kit. I had friends that were burnt (lost thousands) from several vendors claiming to have cracked the Lotus ECU so that the car could run perfectly with an aftermarket kit. I know first hand with my own car that the additional mods I had (on top of the Katana) required a custom tune because the stock katana map was causing detonation due to the AFR’s being out of whack from the sports cat and other mods. I’ll put money on the same thing happening if someone installs a Komo-tec kit and then swaps their manifold, sports cat, cams or anything else that will pull the AFR’s out of line. Aftermarket kits & ECU maps are great when your car is stock, if it isn’t and you’ve got mods then NO ECU flash will save the day and your car’s engine will probably suffer.
I am pretty sure every man and his dog knows what Sinclaire offer without them posting it. Sadly every thread that gets posted on there with regard to ANother product quickly gets turned into a thread about Sinclaire what they offer which is starting to grate with quite a few people.
Also it seems the moderators are very protective of them but not other companies, if I had gone on there ranting about sincs like frank I would of been banned by now and the thread would of been pulled out of sight.
Dont get me wrong I have nothing against them, I am sure they offer a great product and every communication I have had with them has been pleasent and helpful but having had it rammed down my throat so much it makes me want something different (probably wrongly).
Blacktoy what you say makes complete sense and was nicely put. I’d rather however at this time spend the money with Lotus then on something Frank may endorse. I’ve had a few things from Hanger111 also of which one item I’ve had issues with but in the end they sorted it and in a more than fair manner. So I trust them enough that if I had a problem but this time with a Komo-Tech install it would at some point get sorted again. After that attack on Greg and Marianne how am I to know that if I bought and have legitimate issue with a Katana install Frank would not come on all righteous and shoot me down in flames. I understand he’s passionate very much so but he’s completely out of order and has come across a real asshole, shame really.
The reality is that Frank has very little to do with the Katana kit now despite doing all the R&D for it. Sector111 packaged the kit with CharlieX providing the ECU maps. The Katana kit is just the same Eaton M62 supercharger you get in any Exige S along with a Greddy intake manifold, a pulley and some brackets (It’s not like Frank is selling or manufactured these parts). The thing that made the Katana successful was the ECU map based on the hours of work and testing Frank and CharlieX put into it.
It’s all very well companies doing there up most to deal with issues on aftermarket kits but you can’t solve issues with whacked out AFR’s unless you can access all the parameters in the car’s ECU. It’s really that simple. That’s why I don’t understand why vendors like Komo-tec/JSD and others don’t just outsource the ECU tuning/mapping. The cost and effort to crack the Lotus ECU is monumental yet the reward or revenue from doing it is fairly small given that someone else is already doing it and has been doing it for years.
[quote=blacktoy] That’s why I don’t understand why vendors like Komo-tec/JSD and others don’t just outsource the ECU tuning/mapping. The cost and effort to crack the Lotus ECU is monumental yet the reward or revenue from doing it is fairly small given that someone else is already doing it and has been doing it for years.
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Putting all your eggs in one basket is crazy, Charlie could charge them what he wants. I have said it before and I’ll say it again, if one man can do it why cant another?
I have been told JSD have access to the ecu and have made it stick for a number of months, there is another chap having a look at an ecu as we speak. Will these other things come off? who knows but it will be better for everyone if they do as competition is healthy.
Currently a Gotham flash (thats what it is even tho its called a tune) is �1200ish inc the injectors (�1400 fitted) thats a lot for a flash, however thats the perk of being the only people who can.
Charlie was charging $2000 when the gotham first came out its now $1200.
Boothy
All joking aside, what is involved in cracking an ECU?