New to the Exiges ‘clan’ so it was great to meet so many of you at Donny! Seeing so many S1 there was brill too! (and some S2!!!)
I thought the day was simply great with perfect weather and able to get the tyres warmed up properly in the afternoon session… helped by Ians 115mph speed challenge through the craners! Got there in the end too!
Thx to Martin and Steve for amazing laps in the SC!!! BRAKES are awesom and so to to Mr Pesky also for the offer of a ride… only had one spare set of shreddies though!
Hope we can get another ‘noisy’ day sorted with Bookatrack aisde for the next one in DEC!!!
Any ‘pan shots’ of my Aluminium S1 taken??? (Hope so!)
Take care guys… off for some new Yoko’s!
Pete.
Overall great day thanks for getting the ball rolling with it Pesky [/quote]
yep good meeting people, next time I’ll share your garage rather than use my own (15) it was SO lonely in there I never knew Lotus made so many S1’s kind of felt intimidated and must make a note to add more power…bloody soon Still first outing of the year, the car was excellent what with all the new mods!
Cheers mate, but no biggie. We chopped up an old rear clam I had yesterday, so now have a new centre section fitted. The roof and engine cover will go again and are at my body shop being fixed as we speak. We have made some brackets that will clamp the front of the roof to my roll cage, so fingers crossed it will stay put from now on. lol.
I did have a minor sence of humour failure at the time, which is very very unlike me, but I had recovered within about 30 seconds. lol
Roll on the next test session, to see what falls off next. lol
Can I just say thanks to everybody I chatted to, and especially the guy who greeted me on arriving with (quite rightly) “Get it on Track”…
…I will do one day, its just I am a little bit too precious with it at the moment.
Also, with it being a noisy day, I expected to not quite be on the same pace as everyone else on the track (well nowhere near actually)
I dont make a good passenger, so I didnt bother you lot, but I did blag a ride in the 2-11. I only managed 3 laps before requesting him to let me out !
My issue was oversteer (nice at 115mph! ). Howie’s view was that under load all driven wheels want to push on, the lift allows the car to turn before the power pushes you in the right direction; not really a weight transfer thing.
My issue was oversteer (nice at 115mph! ). Howie’s view was that under load all driven wheels want to push on, the lift allows the car to turn before the power pushes you in the right direction; not really a weight transfer thing.
Ian
Surely lift off (however slight) is going to transfer weight to the front, enabling the front wheels to dig in, & in the extreme, produce lift off oversteer? Just whereabouts on the track were you getting the problem? Personally, I have a slight lift off just after clipping the last kerb on the right hand side of the descent, then foot to the floor to clip the apex on the left, keeping the car well over to left on the exit down to the Old Hairpin. I’m not saying that’s the right way to do it, but without some instruction, it’s the way which feels best to me
My issue was oversteer (nice at 115mph! ). Howie’s view was that under load all driven wheels want to push on, the lift allows the car to turn before the power pushes you in the right direction; not really a weight transfer thing.
Ian
Surely lift off (however slight) is going to transfer weight to the front, enabling the front wheels to dig in, & in the extreme, produce lift off oversteer? Just whereabouts on the track were you getting the problem? Personally, I have a slight lift off just after clipping the last kerb on the right hand side of the descent, then foot to the floor to clip the apex on the left, keeping the car well over to left on the exit down to the Old Hairpin. I’m not saying that’s the right way to do it, but without some instruction, it’s the way which feels best to me
I had some instruction from Howie, what a top bloke I was sat chatting in the car with him for about an hour after our session. Sadly meant I missed a punt in Chris’s CSR though His top tip is easily summarised…“progressive NOT aggressive with all inputs”.
Howie’s recommended Craners/Old-Hairpin was similar to yours Rob apart from he (and Russ) took the other line into the Old Hairpin that instead of tucking in tight gives a wider arc on the approach. Both lines are described in the Circuit Guide IIRC.
In reality the lift must do both things, both transfer a bit of weight to the front and release the rears from a bit of drive to assist the direction change???
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In reality the lift must do both things, both transfer a bit of weight to the front and release the rears from a bit of drive to assist the direction change??? [/quote]
My issue was oversteer (nice at 115mph! ). Howie’s view was that under load all driven wheels want to push on, the lift allows the car to turn before the power pushes you in the right direction; not really a weight transfer thing.
Ian
Surely lift off (however slight) is going to transfer weight to the front, enabling the front wheels to dig in, & in the extreme, produce lift off oversteer? Just whereabouts on the track were you getting the problem? Personally, I have a slight lift off just after clipping the last kerb on the right hand side of the descent, then foot to the floor to clip the apex on the left, keeping the car well over to left on the exit down to the Old Hairpin. I’m not saying that’s the right way to do it, but without some instruction, it’s the way which feels best to me
I had some instruction from Howie, what a top bloke I was sat chatting in the car with him for about an hour after our session. Sadly meant I missed a punt in Chris’s CSR though His top tip is easily summarised…“progressive NOT aggressive with all inputs”.
Howie’s recommended Craners/Old-Hairpin was similar to yours Rob apart from he (and Russ) took the other line into the Old Hairpin that instead of tucking in tight gives a wider arc on the approach. Both lines are described in the Circuit Guide IIRC.
In reality the lift must do both things, both transfer a bit of weight to the front and release the rears from a bit of drive to assist the direction change???
Yep Rob, that’s the point to lift (a car length before the turn-in cone). I suspect you’re right that there is weight transfer but when I used those words to Howie mid-afternoon he did one of his polite friendly little grimaces and said the thing about the driven wheels.
My oversteer (and the car is set-up to be pointy) was occuring at the (115mph!) apex at the bottom of Craners. The lift reduced the apex speed but gave me a faster more controled entry to Old Hairpin, which I suspect would give better more consistent lap times (if I cared about such things).
Russ and I were both taught the line in to Old Hairpin whilst out with Howie in the Vectra on the siteing laps (a good time and zero cost method of getting some instruction ).
Not sure about the effect on lap times, but keeping a more central/over to the right a bit, on the approach to the Old Hairpin, will make overtaking more difficult in a race situation.
Then again, I always feel relieved, that a wheel hasn’t fallen off, by the time I get to the Old Hairpin!