The other 2 plugs are for sensors to be fitted (IE - Oil temperature and pressure), if it’s not used. It’s good to re-seal them with plumbers’ tape.
Exactly what I was thinking if they still leak… May also use ptfe tape on the sump plug too. (don’t like using too much torque on ally)
NOOOOO … they are still leaking oil !!
Have taken all 3 plugs out and refitted them using PTFE tape.
If it still Bl**dy leaks i,ll remove the thing and weld them all shut and suck oil out with a straw if I have to when it comes time for an oil change
Eeee I had you down as a bitter drinker! How about a sealent of some sort J?
If there is a moral to this… then it’s to get a dealer to fit it.
Remove all the plugs and check the faces and threads. I’ve seen sump’s crack before from overtightening of plugs.
Fatcat - If it’s any consolation, a dealership won’t do much difference. There are known issues with Moroso oil pans, while it is a great product, they have their little naggy issues.
That might be all well and good, but one of the main reasons why I wanted and bought an S2 was to ‘not have fiddle around with the car to keep it going’ and thats why I did not buy an S1.
But buying a product specifically for the S2 and continually fiddling around with it to get it to fit right is not very good - is it !
Might just add TADTS.
I bought the S2 for the same reason, after a troublesome period if S1 ownership.
So far this has put me off buying the Moroso pan, not least because I’m miles from a dealer and have nowhere to work on the car myself at the moment.
If there is a moral to this… then it’s to get a dealer to fit it.
Why would a dealer be interested in fitting non-Lotus kit of this nature, when the factory recommends the Accusump? How does it affect the warranty?
Just curious, folks, & am not passing any comment on the effectiveness/quality/or anything else of either product.
Just my thoughts
All the recent ‘hot’ Exiges - ie with more that 220bhp have had Accusumps fitted by Lotus.
I thought they must know something we don’t but if you buy a new 2008 car with the PP you get 240bhp but guess what - no accusump.
So what do we gather from that ?
I am sure if you start fitting aftermarket sumps etc and something does go bang Lotus will just walk away.
At least if you fit an accusump you can start a reasonable argument with them
All IMHO of course
When you have actually seen the OEM Toyota sump on your car, you will wonder why Lotus actually formulate to retain using this POS. There are alot of OEM Toyota bits, blah it’s a 2ZZ-GE to begin with but the sump is easily the weakest link especially for a car from Lotus deemed to be a “track ready sports car” from showroom with cornering abilities of generating up to over 2Gs.
Of course, owners can continue to kid themselves to think that it’s alright. Yes, it’s relatively fine if you don’t drive the car hard or take it to the track. But it’s far from optimum when it comes to application and usage, in short the sump is simply not up to the design and usage requirement of the car.
I’ve mentioned before, the Accusump is yet another band-aid half-ass solution from Lotus. As much as you love your warranty and is pro-Lotus, fitting the accusump + OEM Toyota sump is just a parallel pointless exercise. You may have a constant oil feed from the accusump but your OEM sump is still the same piece of POS in use.
There are 2 real solutions.
1 - Get a proper baffled sump (IE - Moroso).
2 - Baffled sump + Accusump for ultimate track setup.
At the end of the day, the sump is not a performance mod, it’s simply the biggest insurance you can buy for enthusiastic driving from worrying about blowing an engine because of the most basic principal - Lack of cannot feed sufficient oil at high Gs.
I still wonder why there are not any readily availble dry sump kits for this engine.
from showroom with cornering abilities of generating up to over 2Gs.
Not arguing with the rest of what you are saying, but you have absolutly zero chance of getting anywhere near 2G in any corner with A048’s or any other road legal tyre for that matter.
2G even with slicks on isn’t really possible. I have seen just about 1.6G lateral in my S1 race car on 48’s and in a recent chat with Steve Taylor (S1 SC Honda on slicks) he competes at the front of GT Cup, he only sees just under 1.8G and as I say that is on Slicks!
Another thought is that none of the 211’s in the LOT race series have any kind of baffled sump as far as I am aware and no one has blown an engine in a year of racing, so the standard setup can’t be that bad.
I agree that things can always be improved, but sometimes, if it aint broke…
…if it aint broke…
…send for Nigel!
from showroom with cornering abilities of generating up to over 2Gs.
Not arguing with the rest of what you are saying, but you have absolutly zero chance of getting anywhere near 2G in any corner with A048’s or any other road legal tyre for that matter.
2G even with slicks on isn’t really possible. I have seen just about 1.6G lateral in my S1 race car on 48’s and in a recent chat with Steve Taylor (S1 SC Honda on slicks) he competes at the front of GT Cup, he only sees just under 1.8G and as I say that is on Slicks!
Absolutely correct… which makes it all the more amazing loking at the F1 ‘G’ meters that show 4.5G on cornering and 5G on braking!!!
5 ‘G’ vertical will see most people black out! I have pulled 8G a few times (a long time ago when there were no soft bits!) but have no idea what that amount of F1 lateral and decelerating G would feel like!
All this whilst piloting the car in a race too… BIG respect!
Some guy in the US blew his 2-11 engine up using slicks
Nah mate, he probably just kept it in first
There is a big difference between peak and sustained G, keep an eye on the G meter and it will only briefly register 4-5G. If you crash at @30mph it isn’t unusual to see peak loads of 2-300G for a fraction of a second.
There is a big difference between peak and sustained G, keep an eye on the G meter and it will only briefly register 4-5G. If you crash at @30mph it isn’t unusual to see peak loads of 2-300G for a fraction of a second.
And that nice new Moroso oil pan wont be very useful anymore!