I am now sitting right on the edge, I want to like the S1 and if I do it will mean my S2 will have to be sold, I won’t have to sell to buy luckily but within a month or so.
Here is the dilema, my car is carbontastic and has load of trick bits, might well be what a lot of people want from a trackday S2, but will they pay the premium for that, or should I remove all the easily resold parts,
Roof
Bootlid
Rear wing
Front splitter
Access panels
Side scoops
Gearbox and oil cooler
Nitrons
240R Wheels
4 pots
Accusump
Even the charge cooler?
Rear brake 2 pot conversion
And then sell them on, it would be nice to see it go as a complete car but the money would have to be the same.
Also I have just bought a replacement clutch and fidanza flywheel to go on the new engine.
Crickey just remembered I have a Recaro Lotus Motorsport bucket seat I have never fitted!
Ade - if it were me (and it might be soon enough) I’d try to sell the car pretty much as is and aim it at someone who wants a properly sorted track car. Price it accordingly but offer a ‘std’ spec option. That way you save yourself the grief of taking all the bits off unless you really have to.
Yeah price it high and see if you get any bites, that saves you the work then. But I bet you end up putting it back to standard. as I dont think people will pay the premium for all the upgrades. That’s just the way of the world in the modded car game.
That was kind of what I was thinking, most of the parts I have should sell well and it is even worth the �400 to swop the gearbox and remove the oil cooler kit, when the setup is worth ~�2k 2nd hand. The only bit I might leave on is the charge cooler, I just could not go through removing the front clam and rad pack again…
That was kind of what I was thinking, most of the parts I have should sell well and it is even worth the �400 to swop the gearbox and remove the oil cooler kit, when the setup is worth ~�2k 2nd hand. The only bit I might leave on is the charge cooler, I just could not go through removing the front clam and rad pack again… [/quote]
I’d add up the perceived value of the mods and then take 30% off, add the labour/effort to remove and then see if it’s worth the grief removing the mods.
Remember you never ever get what you want or what the stuffs really worth come sale time - just selling a few bikes at the moment and learning the painful truth
That S1 Elise/Exige sounds like it was put together really poorly to begin with. I appreciate a lot of work has gone on since rectrifying the problems. I’d start by asking John if ALL the niggles are sorted and it’s had a complete bill of health. It certainly looks appealling but you just need to know what’s under the flesh
(like a bird with big hooters, really)
I digress. If still keen then sadly , I think you’re better of stripping your car and selling as OEM and having a parts garage sale.
That was kind of what I was thinking, most of the parts I have should sell well and it is even worth the �400 to swop the gearbox and remove the oil cooler kit, when the setup is worth ~�2k 2nd hand. The only bit I might leave on is the charge cooler, I just could not go through removing the front clam and rad pack again… [/quote]
I’d add up the perceived value of the mods and then take 30% off, add the labour/effort to remove and then see if it’s worth the grief removing the mods.
Remember you never ever get what you want or what the stuffs really worth come sale time - just selling a few bikes at the moment and learning the painful truth [/quote]
Had already accounted for the drop of the parts being 2nd hand and going with prices I have seen stuff sold for lately so I am not being over ambitious with my prices. It is starting to look like stripping and reselling is the way forwards. Still not sure what to do…
[quote=661]That S1 Elise/Exige sounds like it was put together really poorly to begin with. I appreciate a lot of work has gone on since rectrifying the problems. I’d start by asking John if ALL the niggles are sorted and it’s had a complete bill of health. It certainly looks appealling but you just need to know what’s under the flesh
(like a bird with big hooters, really)
I digress. If still keen then sadly , I think you’re better of stripping your car and selling as OEM and having a parts garage sale. [/quote]
Do you know something I don’t? Nowhere have seen anything about the car not be well put together to start with, it was unfinished and I suspect the parts that were unfinished were the difficult bits (been there before having bought unfinished projects)
There are liable to be little niggles with the car and the hope these will not detract from using it and it being reliable, bits come loose on all track cars due to the level of use they get.
[quote=chrisexigegt]Ade - if it were me (and it might be soon enough) I’d try to sell the car pretty much as is and aim it at someone who wants a properly sorted track car. Price it accordingly but offer a ‘std’ spec option. That way you save yourself the grief of taking all the bits off unless you really have to.
[quote=ade][quote=661]That S1 Elise/Exige sounds like it was put together really poorly to begin with. I appreciate a lot of work has gone on since rectrifying the problems. I’d start by asking John if ALL the niggles are sorted and it’s had a complete bill of health. It certainly looks appealling but you just need to know what’s under the flesh
(like a bird with big hooters, really)
I digress. If still keen then sadly , I think you’re better of stripping your car and selling as OEM and having a parts garage sale. [/quote]
Do you know something I don’t? Nowhere have seen anything about the car not be well put together to start with, it was unfinished and I suspect the parts that were unfinished were the difficult bits (been there before having bought unfinished projects)
There are liable to be little niggles with the car and the hope these will not detract from using it and it being reliable, bits come loose on all track cars due to the level of use they get. [/quote]
I don’t claim to have any insider knowledge but read the build thread and there seemed to be so much that needed doing to get it to a good standard. The current owner does seem to have very exacting standards ( which is obviously good for any purchaser) and perhaps what was deemed ‘in need of fixing’ may to the rest of us been acceptable from the start. However, the way I read it, there were a number of parts of the build that were just frankly done wrong and one wonders if those are the noticed things, what else did the present owner inherit. I’m sure John would have got a gut feel for the car.
If I was without the S2 and looking for a very capable track car this would be on my radar, potential warts and all.
S1s are lighter, S1s are the original, S1s look better, S1s are more of a challenge to drive, etc. There’s a host of reasons to want one.
‘K-series engines are a pain’ and other such statements may apply.
I am expecting my S1 with a Honda engine and big brakes to be a blooming splendid trackday tool and pretty reliable too as the upgraded components are under less stress. Even when it had the K it had a character that was great.