wanted....brakes

s1 4 pot aps if there any used ones out there…asthetic condition not a concern.

It might be worth ringing Maidstone Sports Cars. I know they had some quite a while ago which they offered me.

I’d stick with the standard calipers if I were you… nothing wrong with them and people have had some problems with the 4 pots…

What problems have occured, as I’m having some fitted at the moment with the standard front calipers on the back.

Jamie

Problem is a “long” pedal on track, with the set up you going for, unless you also fit Lotus Motorsport Brake Master/Clutch cylinders (search for a thread by Marc Osmond). Martin Edwards & myself* both went down this route.

Have a chat with Andy @ Maidstone, as he has previously machined a hub whereby an oem front caliper is fitted at the rear, plus a seperate small caliper for the handbrake. The Lotus Motorsport Elises used 4 pots on the front, & the 2 pots on the rear, but of course didn’t need a hand brake.

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[quote=M7EXG]I’m probably wrong but I thought the Lotus front calipers were basically the same as the AP’s ?

The car only weighs less than 800k and main thing is to change is the brake hoses,unless your lucky enough to have a SC/Turbo. [/quote]

The front standard calipers are APs, but they are only 2-pots… some people change them for bigger AP 4-pots and move the existing front calipers to the rear to help keep the balance.

They really don’t need anything more… I and plenty others have raced with the standard setup and it’s ok.

Dave, what are you on about, BIGGER is ALWAYS better!!! :wink:

I love the 4 pot front 2 pot rear motorsport master cylinder setup!!!

You just love the bling man :wink:

Plus, you need more brakes to stop that anchor in the back of your car :wink:

Yeah man, Anchors are good!!!

Well the last thing I want is a longer pedal, so I hope it doesn’t turn out like that.

I’m having the 4 pots on the front using GT uprights and the standad fronts on the back with GT uprights. A 111R master cylinder is being used instead of the standard item, but with a custom-made piston. Randy is doing the conversion and it’s the exact same set-up as on his race car. He reckons it’s the best pedal he’s ever had on any car.

Obviously I’m losing the handbrake, but I will probably take my car off the road soonish anyway. However, I’m still going to look into a lightweight spot caliper option when I get the car back. Hopefully I can get something to run off the existing handbrake cable.

What about a hydraulic handbrake ?

A hydraulic handbrake would be the easy route to take, however if I at some point needed the car to pass an MOT this would be a problem.

I’m also thinking of giving Time Attack a go and believe hydraulic handbrakes aren’t allowed.

I’m very impressed with the on track capabilities of the 4 pots along with the motorsport master cylinder upgrade, fitting of the motorsport master cylinder was a huge pain in the ass for me being a relative newbie to mechanical diy !!

worth it for the looks alone! helped that mine were more or less free mind :wink:

marc.

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Plus, you need more brakes to stop that anchor in the back of your car :wink:[/quote]

Not to mention the +w one in the driving seat :smiley:

Luv ya really :wink:

How much pedal travel are you getting with the 4 pots after some hard track use?

None now…but without M/sport master cylinde 1"-1.5" inches ie enough to cause problems with h&t. Was absolutely fine on the road, but on track, far from ideal :wink:

Yeah I still have a rock hard pedal after a 20 minute race.

That’s what you say to all the girls :wink:

Yeah but I may need a bit of Servo Assistance “S2 Stylee” every now and then. haha