Komotec have many tunes so I am sure its not a 240R map
Are you willing to put a few bucks down on that I am…and I don’t gamble…
Ah frank, the irony. So quick to point out how everyone is wrong, yet you claim to know just about everything about all kits outthere based on… what exactly?
Komo-tec has at least one ECU tune (MY04 + MY05) that works fine with their S/C kit and one for all MY06+ that may still have a few bugs but is getting there. It’s not a 240R ECU. Neither is Bemani’s ECU, which I know out of 1st hand. Sincerely sorry to point out that you obviously weren’t the first to crack Lotus ECU…
Also, on the topic of warranty: If your engine blows up or something goes wrong and Lotus finds a ECU tune from the US - they’ll just make the modified ECU responsible for it and void warranty, regardless if it was caused by it or not. Given this is a very delicate line to walk on, I wouldn’t let any thing other than a proven or “mainstream” (<- keyword) ECU anywhere near my car.
In a last attempt: Is it now possible to leave Bemani (or other tuners) out of topics they don’t really belong in?
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"Look if it works here it will work anywhere all the tunes are set at a base octane rating for the world market. That’s right we tested US,Brit,Jap and Costa Rican ECU’s… "
OK name the UK car here running the Ronin/sector S/c kit :-)for testing !!!
lol o thats rights you cannot because there is NOT ONE.
there is no such thing as a base octane rating for the world market !!!
You may have looked at a UK ECU but the fact is you have not tested this new kit with UK fuel.
If you have done all the UK testing show me the A/F ratio on a UK car with 99 Ron fuel on a 240 BHp map.
Frank, a word in your shell-like mate. Whatever the technical right and wrongs about this and other threads, you are repeatedly making yourself look a bit of a plonker by the tone you are adopting. Being rude and dismissive about other peoples opinions, or implying that those who hold a different view from you are stupid is not going to win you any friends, or impress any potential customers. If you can’t keep it civil and friendly then I am sure most people on here would rather you didn’t post at all.
Mark
I’m getting tired of reading posts like this…every post is becoming a p!ssing contest, my ECU is better than your ECU and so on. Nothing is proven in the UK yet so stop telling us how wonderful your US solutions are. Bemani have more conversions running than your ‘one off’, they may not have an independant dyno sheet but to be honest I’d much rather buy a kit from them than from someone who comes across as arrogant, narrow minded and unprofessional.
Frank - all credit for what you’ve done. Your attitude is putting me off buying anything from you. Imagine if my UK kit didn’t work and I had issues - would I get to listen to your wonderful support and attitude? or would I get a response like a UK vendor did from Forced Fed?
Look if it works here it will work anywhere all the tunes are set at a base octane rating for the world market. That’s right we tested US,Brit,Jap and Costa Rican ECU’s… What’s with you guys that don’t know squatt about the topic following the lemmings down the same path…I don’t want you to take me out to dinner and swap spit with me…I’m just telling it like it is, if pipe dreams and BS is what you crave then then hire a hooker because you’ll get a better blow job from her then you’ll get from those kits…I’m just tellin you the truth about the products out there… How can you have a pissing contest with only one side…hell I’m ready bring em on…Bemani may have more than 25 kits out there, nobody knows…so far only one independent dynosheet in all the known Lotus world and a pittiful showing of 206rwhp…and you would buy a Bemani kit because he’s a nice guy ?..If you want proof ask Bemani or Komo-tech they’re calling us
Oh, and by the way I’m not sellin anything just stating facts
When there is a UK owner with your kit installed, tested and running for 6 months without issues then I’ll be interested in learning more. You only have to look at a few youtube Bemani Exige videos to realise that the Exige isn’t down on power…they may not be making 289rwhp but they making enough to keep up and overtake many sports cars on a straight.
Dyno’s are generally subjective from what people have said in the past. Too many variables contribute to the final figures. To be honest, anything with a 0-100mph time of around 9 seconds is fast enough for me and will destroy pretty much everything apart from the top select sportscars…
When there is a UK owner with your kit installed, tested and running for 6 months without issues then I’ll be interested in learning more. You only have to look at a few youtube Bemani Exige videos to realise that the Exige isn’t down on power…they may not be making 289rwhp but they making enough to keep up and overtake many sports cars on a straight.
I have had short drives and passengered both a factory 240R and Jamie’s Bemani Exige, and subjectively the latter felt a hell of a lot quicker. Lacking in power it most certainly ain’t… Has Frank driven them both I wonder ?
Komotec have many tunes so I am sure its not a 240R map
Are you willing to put a few bucks down on that I am…and I don’t gamble…
Ah frank, the irony. So quick to point out how everyone is wrong, yet you claim to know just about everything about all kits outthere based on… what exactly?
Komo-tec has at least one ECU tune (MY04 + MY05) that works fine with their S/C kit and one for all MY06+ that may still have a few bugs but is getting there. It’s not a 240R ECU. Neither is Bemani’s ECU, which I know out of 1st hand. Sincerely sorry to point out that you obviously weren’t the first to crack Lotus ECU…
Also, on the topic of warranty: If your engine blows up or something goes wrong and Lotus finds a ECU tune from the US - they’ll just make the modified ECU responsible for it and void warranty, regardless if it was caused by it or not. Given this is a very delicate line to walk on, I wouldn’t let any thing other than a proven or “mainstream” (<- keyword) ECU anywhere near my car.
In a last attempt: Is it now possible to leave Bemani (or other tuners) out of topics they don’t really belong in?
You guys make me laugh a thread about ECU’s and you defend these guys who copy their tunes because they can’t do it on their own…if you compair the maps on the ECU and you will see with a doubt who wrote the program…I had no idea that England was importing Swedish sand…ahh the Emperor’s new clothes
Sector is setting up a dealer in the UK with a kit that has been provin here with 20,000mi. road and track…and there is zero differance between the stock fuel requirements GB/US believe it or not …
My post on this ECU topic are not based on opinion but “fact” plain and simple facts it’s the other guys “opinion” based on hearsay that my facts are wrong…I have first had knowlage to the facts over the last year working with CharlieX on this tuning solution…so at this time have someone from any of the EU supercharger tuning outfits step in…because the truth talks and bull shite walks… I’m not in it for the money…
I in all honesty I couldn’t give “Jack”… believe what you want…it’s your hard earned money not mine…I know where my money went and I have the proof to back it up…fuckin sheep…
Bemani may have more than 25 kits out there, nobody knows…so far only one independent dynosheet in all the known Lotus world and a pittiful showing of 206rwhp…and you would buy a Bemani kit because he’s a nice guy ?
Never really replied to this, but what’s so bad about a 202-206rwhp for a Bemani conversioned car anyway? I have a dynosheet on a Komo-Tec that manages the same (around 204.4rwhp) which amounts to exactly 273hp. If the Bemani car did somewhere around that mark, it would surely amount to around 270+/-hp as well, which is exactly in line what they’re claiming.
I have a dynosheet on a Komo-Tec that manages the same (around 204.4rwhp) which amounts to exactly 273hp. If the Bemani car did somewhere around that mark, it would surely amount to around 270+/-hp as well, which is exactly in line what they’re claiming.
Seems like a massive loss from engine to wheel to me
I have a dynosheet on a Komo-Tec that manages the same (around 204.4rwhp) which amounts to exactly 273hp. If the Bemani car did somewhere around that mark, it would surely amount to around 270+/-hp as well, which is exactly in line what they’re claiming.
Seems like a massive loss from engine to wheel to me
I have a dynosheet on a Komo-Tec that manages the same (around 204.4rwhp) which amounts to exactly 273hp. If the Bemani car did somewhere around that mark, it would surely amount to around 270+/-hp as well, which is exactly in line what they’re claiming.
Seems like a massive loss from engine to wheel to me
^^ yeah. Guess it also depends in which gear the car was messured as well as the dyno. When I look at the calculated speeds the car reached during the dyno plot (8445 rpm @ 243.9kmh), I would have to assume they had it in 5th gear.
Looking at other dynos from Exige-S or 111S, the drive-train loss seems smaller (the latter messured in 3rd gear). It’s also quite different from dyno to dyno - one particular case shows a drive-train loss of 35.5 kW.
Then, I have another Exige-S dyno plot, which has a drive-train loss of 50.8 kW or 69.1 PS (max reached is 104.3 kW / 141.8 PS at the wheel and 210.9 / 229.7 hp)…
Frank, perhaps you should avoid using the forum if your unable to contribute positively or constructively?
On a side note, you keep talking about ‘fact’… If its fact, then proove it?
We are discussing the mods/ecu’s/remaps available to us here in the UK. Until something else comes along, we will discuss those, and discuss them hard.
People are talking with their wallets, so obviously feel its worthwhile. Perhaps you should just let them get on with it, or just stop posting here?
Fact is call Sector 111 they will sell you a tuned ECU for the English or European market, see fact it is available even in GB…there is no difference, feel free to call Lotus and discuss ECUs around the world…at what point have you entered into the “WE ZONE” as I look back in this thread you have not made one post in reguards to ECUs…as far as speaking with “your” wallet, it seems as though you have lost your voice…now my wallet has been screaming for the past year on R$D with CharlieX on this topic and the fact is we are the only guys to come up with a solution as to retuning the ECU…Fact 289rwhp/206ftlb retuned ECU…Fact non-intercooled supercharger tuned ECU 214rwhp/142ftlb…Fact retuned “S”…
And about me talking with my wallet, im currently raising the funds to get into an NA exige… What do i drive now? A rice rocket integra type-r… ‘only’ 200hp from an 1800cc 4 pot… So i’ve got a fair idea about whats in the Exige…