Rebuilding my CUP260

Oh please, give it a rest. I have zero need or desire to try and impress you. :unamused:

Thanks for contributing Dave…

Hey guys…

So you’ll not be laying down any more gauntlets then

Good luck with the build, look forward to seeing it finished

It is certainly going to be one of the most interesting engine builds I have seen, totally one off pistons to start with, I hope they are successful.

Will you be using steel liners in your block?

So you’ll

Nickelsil…

Hmmm is it really bud? I kinda concluded it was a thread for you to demonstrate to us how awesome you are? Maybe it’s a cultural thing and in the UK we expect a little more humility?

I also think us UK tea-sippers are typically sceptical and have a ‘proof is in the pudding’ attitude. You know a bit more quod-erat demonstrandum swagger after a season of podiums and not before.

I know I sound like some kinda marriage councillor here but maybe it would help if we understood your motivation, implicit or otherwise? I don’t even know if it’s a competition car? This board has seen sprint, hillclimb, endurance, rally, Rallycross, GT,…you name it. When you say ‘fastest thing out there’, what does that mean?

So you are

If you go back and read the entire thread, it only started going south when you began being a little contemptuous. Perhaps that’s just a culture difference, but until that point, everyone was responding positively towards your thread/build.

People here are a friendly bunch, and have a great deal of experience between them… if you get your enjoyment out of spending a considerable amount of money redesigning the proverbial wheel and try and make it 1% better, then that’s great… but as with most things, it’s the law of diminishing returns, and only really makes sense if you are capable of extracting 100% of the existing performance - which honestly, most people are not.

Take the brake duct thing as an example… there are outright Lotus race cars that have raced in Australia that didn’t need brake ducts… now if you have fun and enjoyment from designing them and getting them made up, wonderful… but from an necessity perspective you could well be wasting your time if you haven’t got hard and fast data to prove otherwise.

If you

I’ve asked

I reckon you’ve had plenty feedback on this thread and others but it’s always met with your intransigent confidence in your own conclusions. As such what got dealt might not have been what you wanted,…but you dealt it yourself.

I’m also no clearer as to the purpose of the car? Pure folly to indulge your engineering inquisitiveness, is a purpose? Being creative to stay within some draconian competition regs is a purpose. I think some context would help…

My only aim is peace and harmony here, but this gives a little backup to the point I’m making so please take it constructively.

I happened to have two tabs open and so noticed how you changed your response to Dave. Initially you said this :

I thought fair enough, experience says it’s not required but if it is then you planned for it.

But then rather curiously you changed your response to create a much more self-serving justification. Kinda like you wanted to absolutely 100% guarantee that your wisdom was beyond any level of criticism.

Like Dave says, we’re a friendly bunch with a broad range of experience that is happily shared. If you already know best then just stick to the show 'n tell stylie.

I’m still curious as to what it’s raison d’être is?

Is this guy Erlands Yank “King Toyota” Cousin???

Really? How hot were your brakes getting before? In degrees C or F. Or K if you’re really feeling like a challenge? And how hot have you calculated that are going to get with bigger discs, calipers and pads?

Or are you still going by that exacting engineering measure of ‘they smell hot’?

As Ben says, if you want some engineering practice and make a cool project, then go for it. Crack on, after all, everyone likes a project car. Just don’t get the hump if people disagree with you, and it takes lots of time, patience and money to achieve.

As for 1% here and 2% there, that’s great if you’re Mercedes, Ferrrari, etc with a team of 1000 engineers bringing each % along every week. In the real world where each mod takes weeks/months, your mate has been doing a track day every couple of weeks in his similar car - it’s only 90% as ‘good’, but it’s a useable car - chances are he will disappear on track. Except for the straight bits if your power levels are achieved. And if his engine does something it shouldn’t, a weekend should see it swapped over from a standard Celica/Corolla/Matrix and he’s back out again.

On a whole other subject, did you find out why your original engine spat a rod out?

Is there a place out in the internetland, that every few years spits out a personality, that latches on ( :wink: ) to a thing and can’t believe that there are any other opinions to their own, and if there are, they are simply wrong? Scuffers - Honda. Erland - Rover. Frank - his car. Jim - well, must resist :smiling_imp:

I’ll let you fill in the blanks…

Since my

I was looking

If you found you were able to run close to the limit of the 308mm BBK, this is generally due to lack of stopping power on the rear axle. to try to get the right balance I went through several different options to increase the rear brake capacity. Without changing the pedal box and junking the ABS for a bias one, the I ended up with 315mm AP racing grooved discs all round. I also utilised the original 2 pot fronts on the rear and threw away the anchors that were the original rear callipers. I did find that I think I finally got to the amount of rear braking you can add to an S2 Exige and in reality the rear discs should have stayed as 308mm. the balance just seemed a little too rear biased in the wet with all 315mm discs.