probax seats - ripping the foam out

I’m 6’5’', my car is fine, JSR tweaked it a bit and i fit no worries… though i have realised i could rip out the probax foam and sit closer to the deck, it looks like its basically a leather layer sitting on maybe an inch of foam the leather then wraps a bit under the foam and is glued to the plastic seat. i think i could lift it up, chop off the foam that sits under my ass, glue the leather back down and end up with a better driving position. replacing said foam in future would be the same deal.

has anyone ever done this, or does anyone have any idea whether it’s as simple as i think?

Seems a bit drastic for a probax …maybe a "shell"style seat would be a better bet.

I have a MOG Carbon seat that might fit .

you got a pic? i need something with low sides, tillet b5 may be an option but it costs more than a pair of scissors

I can’t see that compressed foam would be more than a couple of millimetres. Does removing the adjustability mechanism of the drivers seat allow it to mount lower straight onto the floor??

MOG has high sides…sorry

the seat is on custom drilled tallrails to sit right on the floor, the foam is at a push an inch thick uncompressed, i imagine removing it saves a bit over a cm, might not sound like much but i have about 1mm of clearance wearing a helmt on a trackday lol

a more hardcore alternative is to chop off the bottom of the seat, some guy on lotus talk did that

I assume the headlining is off the roof?
Failing that , osteoporosis will gain you a few inches.

I’m 6’-2" and my son’s are 6’-4" each… I’ve made custom seat rails and now it is quite comfortable and roomy inside. I had installed Sector 111 tall rails in there at first and was very disappointed with them.

Top one is the Sector111 tall rail…the middle one is mine…and the bottom one is the OEM passenger seat rail.

This is my seat rail with my 6’-4" son sitting in the seat…

Wouldn’t fancy having a crash with the seats mounted to those rails.

I agree, if you are going to cut out a lump of the box section like that you have to refill it to give most of the strength back to it.

That’s OK…you don’t know me or my expertise…
I used to design crash-worthy seats for aircraft. The only thing I didn’t do is test these dynamically my seat rails… I’d much rather crash in my seat rails that the OEM one…

…these aren’t the seat rails you’re looking for…

surely in a crash the most important thing is the belts/harnesses keeping you in the car, the seat doesn’t help with this. The seat’s not really subjected to any force other than it’;s own momentum and it doesn’t really have anywhere to go even if it were to come loose. Why are you guys so worried about his seat rails?

I have the tallrails but they’re custom drilled to get the seat further back, i’d have to check but the most i could get with a new fabrication may only be half an inch

Yup…exactly correct!

Here is a comparison of the “tall rail” at the top, the OEM passenger seat rail in the middle and mine on the bottom.

“Tall rail” on the right…mine on the left…

This shows how I get another 1/2" head room over the tall rail…

And this shows how I get another 4-1/2" of leg room over the tall rail!!!

Tall rail at the top, mine in the middle and the OEM passenger seat rail on the bottom.

Here is how it looks with a 6’-4" guy sitting in it…

The bottom of the seat…

Until you’re hit in the back, I bent and twisted a say of rails in a shunt, with just my (ample) bodyweight. Also split a carbon seat.

Good thing my seats are up against the rollbar and won’t go back at all.

The harnesses are bolted to the seat frames? I would want to be sure they aren’t going to bend or break…

A “harness” has multiple attachment point. The lap belt ends are the only ones that attach to the seat rails. Mine are designed so that the lap belt load is destributed to the front and the aft attachment screws. The shoulder harnesses attach to the rollbar… the 5th and 6th points are different.