I was doing 2 mins dead last year in my S1 Exige…(177bhp VHPD)
I think the Honda Class B cars were around 1.55 last year, class A were 2.05 or so if I remember correctly.
So…somewhere around the 2 minute mark is going pretty well I think.
- times taken from video analysis after the event before anyone shouts at me
You must be the stig to do that time I found a video of a standard exige being driven at Oulton a while back and he was an good driver and he was doing 2.05. Do you race by any chance ?
Do you race by any chance ?
Well Dave… do you
Re testing at track days. There has definitely been a lot more of this recently. I’d say that the MSV run days have been the worst. Lots of racers using them as cheap test days. The test day etiquette doesn’t mix well with track days. I’ve passed people down the staight and pulled behind a slower car so as not to be out braking them only to have the cars I’ve passed earlier come past under braking and turn in sometimes two abreast and hold me up for the rest of the lap.
Will
You should have spoken to the TDO (MSV) about that on the day - it’s in their own interests to sort it out there & then - nothing worse from their point of view, than to have complaints broadcast on the internet. A quiet word, by the TDO in the requisite ear usually gets things running smoothly for everyone’s benefit. Every briefing I’ve been to, given by the reputable TDOs eg Bookatrack/LOT/MSV, specifically point out that the day is a “trackday” & not a “test” day. I have seen “testers” kicked off & sent packing by Bookatrack, for the very reasons you mention. Personally, I enjoy being out on track with pucker race cars, & I quickly try & assess the driving of those who are “testing”, & then stay well clear of the prats who can ruin everyone else’s fun day out by overtaking without consent. (Just as annoying are folk who can’t be arsed to keep checking their mirrors (or ignore what they see!), so that faster drivers get held up - a number of us suffered this at Donington earlier this year).
Sorry for banging on peeps, but unless the rules are obeyed, we’ll see the end of trackdays sooner rather than later - they may be “big business” for the circuit owners, but they won’t take “the risk”, of running them without having insurance. I can’t afford to go racing, so trackdays are important to me
Couldnt agree more with mr pesky, spot on.
Do you race by any chance ?
Well Dave… do you
Why do I get the feeling that I dont know something that I should
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Ok, ok, I see the thread in ‘projects’ …
Haha…well… I’ve started two races and finished one
But, yes… I decided to do a few LOT rounds this year just to see how I got on and to hopefully improve my driving and push it to the next level.
Here’s some footage of Oulton last year though when my car still had VHPD in :-
http://www.corelabs.net/gallery/albums/Trackdays/Oulton_2min_lap.avi
Haha…well… I’ve started two races and finished one
But, yes… I decided to do a few LOT rounds this year just to see how I got on and to hopefully improve my driving and push it to the next level.
You’ll do well Dave, you can certainly drive yer mota
Haha…well… I’ve started two races and finished one
But, yes… I decided to do a few LOT rounds this year just to see how I got on and to hopefully improve my driving and push it to the next level.
Here’s some footage of Oulton last year though when my car still had VHPD in :-
http://www.corelabs.net/gallery/albums/Trackdays/Oulton_2min_lap.avi
- you might need to right-click, save as to watch it.
Can I ask what you think you would do now you have the honda in it ? Is it SC or NA ?
Can I ask what you think you would do now you have the honda in it ? Is it SC or NA ?
LOT Races are there at the end June
Haha…well… I’ve started two races and finished one
But, yes… I decided to do a few LOT rounds this year just to see how I got on and to hopefully improve my driving and push it to the next level.
Here’s some footage of Oulton last year though when my car still had VHPD in :-
http://www.corelabs.net/gallery/albums/Trackdays/Oulton_2min_lap.avi
- you might need to right-click, save as to watch it.
Can I ask what you think you would do now you have the honda in it ? Is it SC or NA ?
It’s NA…Class B for LOT.
Not sure what it’ll do now around Oulton… got a trackday there on the 13th so will see if it feels much quicker!!
What are the rules as regards to running a video camera in the car? I wouldn’t want to check it during the day to see times, but i can imagine that this is too difficult to police so there might be a general ban?
What are the rules as regards to running a video camera in the car? I wouldn’t want to check it during the day to see times, but i can imagine that this is too difficult to police so there might be a general ban?
Usually, video cameras are permitted, provided they are mounted properly.
However, at some venues you have to sign up to not showing the videos to the general public ie private use only.
It’s a subject normally covered at the briefing, which every participant must attend before being allowed on track.
What are the rules as regards to running a video camera in the car? I wouldn’t want to check it during the day to see times, but i can imagine that this is too difficult to police so there might be a general ban?
Oulton park (all MSV tracks ?) get you to sign a document saying its not for commercial use and wont be broadcast and thats it really.
Haha…well… I’ve started two races and finished one
But, yes… I decided to do a few LOT rounds this year just to see how I got on and to hopefully improve my driving and push it to the next level.
Here’s some footage of Oulton last year though when my car still had VHPD in :-
http://www.corelabs.net/gallery/albums/Trackdays/Oulton_2min_lap.avi
- you might need to right-click, save as to watch it.
Can I ask what you think you would do now you have the honda in it ? Is it SC or NA ?
It’s NA…Class B for LOT.
Not sure what it’ll do now around Oulton… got a trackday there on the 13th so will see if it feels much quicker!!
So it looks like you have to find 8 seconds a lap ? Is that right ? Well good luck
I think I need to find around 5 or so to be there or there abouts, unless the game has moved on a lot since last year.
We’ll see anyway… for me it’s more about improving my driving this year and having some fun to be honest - I don’t expect to be pushing the top 3 in class.
thanks for info
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Will
You should have spoken to the TDO about that on the day - it’s in their own interests to sort it out there & then - nothing worse from their point of view, than to have complaints broadcast on the internet. A quiet word, by the TDO in the requisite ear usually gets things running smoothly for everyone’s benefit. Every briefing I’ve been to, given by the reputable TDOs eg Bookatrack/LOT/MSV, specifically point out that the day is a “trackday” & not a “test” day. I have seen “testers” kicked off & sent packing by Bookatrack, for the very reasons you mention. Personally, I enjoy being out on track with pucker race cars, & I quickly try & assess the driving of those who are “testing”, & then stay well clear of the prats who can ruin everyone else’s fun day out by overtaking without consent. (Just as annoying are folk who can’t be arsed to keep checking their mirrors (or ignore what they see!), so that faster drivers get held up - a number of us suffered this at Donington earlier this year).
Sorry for banging on peeps, but unless the rules are obeyed, we’ll see the end of trackdays sooner rather than later - they may be “big business” for the circuit owners, but they won’t take “the risk”, of running them without having insurance. I can’t afford to go racing, so trackdays are important to me [/quote]
I completely agree Rob. Not really intended as a poke at a specific TDO. These incidents were raised with them on the day, and I think at least one driver was spoken to, but the general poor behaviour continued all day, and at the end of it I know of at least one novice who throught that they wouldn’t be back. Fortunately they have now been convinced to attend a sessioned novice day and have regained some confidence.
I have no axe to grind against the track day organiser, they always make it clear that the day is not a test day, but given the number of race cars that were in attendance they could have been more active in monitoring the activity in the pitlane and on track, particularly if as you say they have their own insurance concerns.
Nobody likes to be the tell tale. As you say it is usually easier to avoid the problems when perhaps we should be reporting them?
When was the last time that you attended a track day where there were racers with pit crew in attendance and you didn’t suspect them of testing/timing?
As a last point I’d suggest that Bookatrack are probably the best I’ve seen for monitoring this, without spoiling anyones fun. Thumbs up to them.
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