Thanks Andy, very helpful.
I wonder if Geary has fixed the Nylatrons?
Anybody tried the bushes from that other mob (help?! forgotten name, not Race Speed, do a load of Elise stuff).
Ian
Rox
They werent from Nitron
I think it can be difficult to get the manufacture spot on - but I beleive they are modified now so the outer surface of the bush has a “crown” and so you cant tighten up on the whole surface of the bush, if the metal insert is a bit too short for the wishbone etc
Knowing what I know now I would individual check each assembly first … but the new ones should be better - check with Geary that this is the mod …
I have Nitrons on my Exige. I use it for track use only. I am running the Yokohama slicks. Does anyone have a recommended ride height and suspension setting they would suggest? Are there any other suggestions for set up with this combination…
Mark,
What spring rates have you got?
I run 400/475 springs, but on slicks (and guranteed dry weather) you could get away more, probably around 500/550 but would need new damper characteristics.
Ride heights around 100/110, but with very stiff springs you could run 90/100 but you would probably need to get Guy at Nitron to build you special dampers, for standard ones I wouldn’t go below 100/110.
Geometry, the figures published higher up are okay but I’d run more radical for slicks.
I run Yokohama AO48’s and use
Front
zero toe, -1 degrees camber, standard castor.
Rear
2mm toe in each side, -2.5 degrees camber
Also the std Lotus sport Adjustable front ARB at it’s stiffest setting.
This is good on track but a bit twitchy on the road (especially as my Nitrons are set at 6 clicks from full stiff on the front and 5 on the rear).
Hey Mark_A,
I am not sure of my spring rates. You ask 10 people about set up and you’ll get 10 different answers. Can you provide me your e mail address. I have photos of my shocks and I want to make certain they are Nitrons. They came out of an Elise that was sent over from a German tuner with a V Tec engine in it, The buyer felt that the shocks were way too stiff for him to use so I tried them in the Exige and it limited my body roll and they felt great. I thought they were Nitrons but now I’m not 100% certain. In any event, I want to know what is needed to do to the Exige in order to be safe and competitive when running with the Yokohama slicks. I have a set of AO48’s on my stock wheels that I use for rain…I e mailed Elise Parts about their toe link upgrade and they seemed to try to talk me out of it??? Please advise…
Click on the pic on Mark’s footer and then click on E-mail at the bottom of the main page.
What exactly did Eliseparts say?
Ian
Mark,
I’ve posted the best pic of the damper below to see if someone else recognises it as I don’t. It doesn’t look like a Nitron I’ve seen.
As Ian said, what was the response from Eliseparts as I am puzzled as to why they wouldn’t want you to fit the Toe-link kit as it is a lot stronger than the standard toe links, especially as you are running slicks.
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Sorry I felt everyone else should see how good you car looks.
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Mark,
You didn’t send the best picture!!!
Some nice ones of your car HERE (Click on (see photos) Watkins Glen).
now that’s the BEST colour…
Nice wheels!
Having looked at the website, I like the blacked out head lamps and wide red interior too.
Ian
Hey Guys,
GEEE…I’m embarased now!!! I ordered the parts from Eliseparts .com today. I guess Geary was just trying to protect himself form crazy Americans who like to sue a lot. I am not one of them. I would just send in a Blackhawk…( ONLY KIDDING!!! ). I was told that the upgraded toe link set works better with the Aluminum hubs also??? The reason Lotus replaced the aluminum with the steel is because the steel ones are stronger!!! In any event, I will do the toe link and bushing updates and try to raise my car 10mm so that I don’t have any problems with the drive shaft and gear box. Do you think from the photos that the car is too low??? I do not see any marks on the chassis from where the drive shaft was hitting but the car was binding up on right hand turns until my tripod joint blew apart. Now, new ultra close ratio straight cut gears, new drive shaft and a new suspension set up…I think that was the problem anyway…Any thoughts?
The car does look mighty low!
I recently saw the toe-link go on a brand new S2 Exige. Alright it’s a little bit heavier but it had done less than a 1000 miles (admittedly one VERY hard day on the track, but still!). This doesn’t leave me feeling the steel hubs are strong enough for an Exige, perhaps a less grippy Elise but not a full on track oriented Exige.
Ian
I you don’t think the steel ones are strong enough then what is?
They are the strongest, and the reason why the kit for the aluminum hubs is more expensive is because it’s got more stuff to bring it up to the strength of the steel ones.
In my case, I’ve done lots of trackdays with no problems, so am intending on changing to a reinforced toe link kit when replacement time comes, when just everything is worn out (joints, etc)
I have only seen one go and it was Brendan’s, which was precisely the upgraded toe link kit (didn’t do much for confidence)
I have only seen one go and it was Brendan’s, …
Eh??
I don’t remember that. You sure you’re not thinking of somebody else, Uldis?
I must have been asleep or something
Well, unless I’m talking about another Brendan:
Anglesey, Yellow TT 260 Exige, cow muck incident, chinky beer, nice girlfriend!
one turn before the main straight one of the bolts snapped making the car go into a spin, luckily stil on the black stuff.
Are you the one?
Uldis/Brendan
The yellow TT Exige is/was owned by Brannan - apart from that, all other facts correct - especially Pippa
That’s a relief. Here’s me thinking I’ve been driving around with broken suspsension for the past few months
I you don’t think the steel ones are strong enough then what is?
No, my point was that the std toe-link is not good enough and even with steel hubs it needs upgrading. Especially if you’re as track focus as Mark111.
Ian
OK, get it. kind of agree.
And ahhhh, sorry my mistake, yes, it was Brannan (I was trying to remember Pippa’s name)
So, who are you?
The broken toe link is this one Click
Now I think it should be clear the bolt broke at the beginining of the thread, which is a weak point if you put a 90 degree load on it ( which you do on a toe link ) so its not the kit thats at fault its the fact the bolt shank was not high enough up in the hub IMO -
Another point, where I may be wrong, but I think the ali hub version is stronger - you have far more of the bolt held that the steel hub version - also, I may be wrong again but I have seen spherical jointed ball joint conversions where a strengthening bar is bolted from the toe link to the bottom ball joint - I guess thats to strengthen the steel hub ?