EXIGE VHPD 190 Spark Plugs

There is no need to shout.

I’m fully aware of how a coil functions having been using them in one form or another for over 35 years. In that time I have seen a lot of products come and go that were trumpeted as the answer to a maidens prayer.

It just seems to me that the equivalent cycle for a single coil of 3500 is extremely low for a coil to start to give problems. That is why I am cynical. Generally most devices have a fair margin beyond their rated specifications before they give any problems.

There are other reasons why you might want to use a single coil per plug…


Dave

bye the bye - when are you going to be honest and front up all that you know about the origin and give due credit for all the K crank counterweighting tests - and introductions to competant dynamic balancing.! It really is about time you were honest Bernard!

Yet another potentially interesting and informative thread for people ruined by you. What has this got to do with spark plugs?

As I said on the last thread that ended up in Muppet Show, stick to the facts, don’t abuse people and the threads work, the information comes out and you get your side of things over for reasoned debate, but you just cant resist can you. I really do think it’s time for you to be removed from these forums.


So come on Mr Admin, make a decision.




A potentially interesting thread ruined by abuse from me?


dva is about with his childish posts, avoiding any kind of discourse, and throwing the word liar about.

I have not abused Bernard - simply asked him in the face of all this abuse aimed at me - to tell the whole story as he knows it

and you call me abusive


what planet are you on?

I’m on planet Earth, which one are you on?

Simon, it’s quite simple, stick to the facts in the thread, at no time did anyone mention balancing, so why bring it up other than to try and stir things up.

You have to admit that to make a 8bhp improvement from a spark-plug gap, which is what your original post claimed was bound to cause a reaction. All Bernard then did was suggest you check your results. It’s then simple to answer with the facts which you did, but then felt the need to have a pop about balancing which was nothing more than stirring.

I’d like to see a current plot of the primary coil charging on the VHPD system - that would prove/disprove quite a bit.

I’d be interested to see it too, if there is a problem with the VHPD coil, since I haven’t seen any evidence so far.

A twin coil system has twice the charge time of a single coil for any given RPM.

dva makes great play trying to claim credit for work I was responsible for -initiating, and steeing through counterweight analysis and introducing him to competant dynamicbalancing

I have claimed no credit whatsoever, nor have I tried to, you are just making it up as you go along. This is a thread about plugs , try to stick to topic. Everybody is pretty fed up with the constant repitition and obsessive flogging away at a long dead horse. Take it up with Steve at VF… and keep your petty disputes off this forum, it seriously devalues it for everyone.

Dave

RC6YCCs are set at 0.9mm [0.035in] from factory - thats ok with an indifferent ignition - ie old and standard coil.

I set them at 1mm, and there are significant horsepower gains to be had at that gap - 8bhp - but only if the rest of the ignition system is up to it.

simon

If you think you are gaining 8 BHP just from changing the plug gap then I think you need check the results. Assuming your ignition system is up to the job to start with, the spark just lights the fire. It doesn’t matter how how big a spark you use, the end result is the same.

Bernard

Great discussion here guys, however we are now talking about different plugs!!!

The Champion RC6 6YC is readily available for under � 2.00, but this is NOT the Champion RC6 6YCC (ie: the additional ‘C’… whatever that means)!!!

I cannot find this plug anywhere… it is the one that is listed in the VHPD tech specs… ANY ideas where I can get this please, ie: the Champion RC6 6YCC!!!

Many thanks,

Pete

Pete,

It is the RC6 YCC that you need, I keep them in stock and so do www.carsparkplugs.co.uk.

R - resistor type for wasted spark type systems
C - ‘C’ type shell design 14mm 3/4 reach 5/8 hex
6 - heat range

Y - Firing end design, standard projected core nose
CC - double copper

The terms RC6 6YC, RCY 6CC and RC6 6YCC are not valid champion codes…


Dave

Pete,

It is the RC6 YCC that you need, I keep them in stock and so do > www.carsparkplugs.co.uk.

R - resistor type for wasted spark type systems
C - ‘C’ type shell design 14mm 3/4 reach 5/8 hex
6 - heat range

Y - Firing end design, standard projected core nose
CC - double copper

The terms RC6 6YC, RCY 6CC and RC6 6YCC are not valid champion codes…


Dave

Many thanks Dave!

That has ALMOST solved this question…

Page 82 in ‘Technical Data’ of the ‘Exige manual’ does list the plug as being the Champion RC6 6YCC [color:“blue”] [/color] which is at odds with your ‘codes’ as above!

Just want to get the very best out of the VHPD unit… put the Magnecor leads on last weekend… need to get as much ‘bang’ as possible! hence the original question!

Cheers,

Pete.

Pete,

It is the RC6 YCC that you need, I keep them in stock and so do > www.carsparkplugs.co.uk.

R - resistor type for wasted spark type systems
C - ‘C’ type shell design 14mm 3/4 reach 5/8 hex
6 - heat range

Y - Firing end design, standard projected core nose
CC - double copper

The terms RC6 6YC, RCY 6CC and RC6 6YCC are not valid champion codes…


Dave

Many thanks Dave!

That has ALMOST solved this question…

Page 82 in ‘Technical Data’ of the ‘Exige manual’ does list the plug as being the Champion RC6 6YCC [color:“blue”] [/color] which is at odds with your ‘codes’ as above!

Just want to get the very best out of the VHPD unit… put the Magnecor leads on last weekend… need to get as much ‘bang’ as possible! hence the original question!

Cheers,

Pete.

Pete

The manual is wrong, Dave is right - its a typo by Lotus

If you want the best bang - cheaply a Ford duratec/Focus/Mondeo twin spark coil is a big improvement over the Vauxhall, not the perfect solution but an easy one for 15 quid new [ebay] you just need to get leads made up specially - and there are better than magnrecor - remember though leads deteriorate so replace them every 12 months

Simon,

Have you done back to back empirical test with this coil against the OE coil?. I have used the Ford coil a number of times simply because it is more available.

Dave

Their comments are interesting.

Simon Thornley’s 286BHP engine uses a single coil with leads that our by his admission 6 years old with RC6 YCCs set at .035 and it hasn’t missed a beat. It would be nice to think he has another 8BHP to come and maybe some more by allowing the engine to peak.

I dont really see the relevance of your other comments but suspect you may be setting the scene in advance for some rebuttals / denials.

Dave

Perhaps you missed that part of the post was tongue in cheek…

I think Simon is pretty happy with his engine.

Dave

Good, he should be, considering it’s mostly OE parts

This is a thread about sparkplugs yet you still cannot resist spouting already disproven nonsense played out time and time again.

The thought that his engine is mostly OE parts is just so laughable I’m surprised you would even go to the bother of typing it out, I’m sure right now Simon is laughing himself silly.

Let’s try to keep it on topic all we’ll all be singing the muppet chorus again…

Dave

Hi Pete


I do not know if I am going to say to you is valid, because in Spain do almost always too hot.

I use the spark plug Denso mod. IK24 and IK27, are very good and so far I obtained very good results with them.


But people say that the spark plug NGK BKR7EVX is very good.

Best regards

Vicente

www.carsparkplugs.co.uk and other websites have a plug equivalence chart which will allow you determine the equivalent NGK, Bosch and Denso plugs for any Champion plug or vice versa.

Dave

Thanks…

Recently spoke to the very helpful guys at PTP and they use and recommend NGK BCPR7ES in all their VHPD engines.

(Google tells me that this plug is also used by SAAB in their HP Turbo engines!!!)

Cheers,

Pete.