Dilemma. What class to go into in Time Attack

I bet your glad you asked now !!! :wink:

I know, it’s a serious list isn’t it. The thing is, that I’ll be as good as useless in the wet against 4wd cars regardless of what tyre I use. It’s just a case of finding something that gives me a bit of a chance and then hope it doesn’t rain hard really.

Camskill told me that Yoko AD08’s were very good, but it doesn’t seem like they would clear much standing water, looking at their tread pattern? We aren’t allowed to cut/re-tread them by the way.

This is something you’ll have to live , I’m afraid.

In hill climbing ( my sport now) , against 4 Wheeled drive cars , in the first 60ft , four drive wheel cars are over a second faster off the line, and that’s a lot for 2 wheel drive cars to make up on the rest off the hill, unfair ? Probably yes it is , but that’s the world we live in :confused:

The biggest challenge on any list of tyres, is finding matching front and rear in the same make/tread. That will narrow the list down massivly!

I entered the very first Time Attack event, I don’t think it was even called time attack then, but it was the same organisation, run by Glen. It was at Rockingham on what started out to be a wet day.

My S1 still had a K series, albeit with a sequential box that thankfully behaved on that day.

I was running 2nd overall at the start when it was wet, behind a guy called Gareth Lloyd in a bit of a mental Escort Cosworth. I was ahead of all the evo’s and other 4wd mental stuff and I was on 48’s. It was only as the track dried that I dropped down the order, finishing 6th overall if I remember correctly, but I did win the 2wd class.

Not wishing to sound billy big bollocks, just saying that wet driving is about clean linear power delivery on a twisty circuit, perhaps even more than outright traction. A mental BHP whizz bang turbo engine, that delivers its power in one big hit, is pretty useless in the wet out of tight corners, no matter how many wheels are doing the driving, you may surprise yourself how well you do.

As far as the list of tyres goes, I would have no clue what to use out of that lot. But I bet there are one or two that are way ahead of the others.

You could always get a set of each and go testing. hahaha. Jesus, could you imagine how much that would cost and how long it would take!!

Time Attack, sounds as if it might be a tad expensive, in finding the correct choice of ‘tyre weapon’

I would recommend not entering the first round, but wander round the paddock , and see who’s using what !!! :slight_smile:

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In hill climbing ( my sport now) , against 4 Wheeled drive cars , in the first 60ft , four drive wheel cars are over a second faster off the line, and that’s a lot for 2 wheel drive cars to make up on the rest off the hill, unfair ? Probably yes it is , but that’s the world we live in :confused: [/quote]

ahh…now it makes sense… :wink:

No, it’ll be fine. Walking around the paddock at the first round wouldn’t really help as everyone’s got such different cars.

Anyway, I’m going to run Kuhmo V70’s from the 1B list, which should be quite a bit better than the Toyo 888’s I was on before. I might even try some of the super softs and hope that I can get some good laps in early on before they overheat. I’ll just have to have a think about the wets for a bit longer. I’ve got a few weeks to decide.

Sean, I didn’t realise you had a bash at Time Attack back at its start. Things have moved on a bit since then. 600-700bhp is now commonplace in Club Class!!! Gareth Lloyd won in 2010, beating Steve G. Very good driver with years of experience. He’s doing World Time Attack this year in an English built Evo. Out of interest, how much time do you reckon a proper sequential gearbox is worth at the various circuits?

is duncan graham racing this year???

Yes he is. Don’t know what class though.

I dont know exactly how much time a sequential boxes saves you. I did some calcs with a data logging trace of a qtr mile run and in 11 seconds I reckon 1.6 ish seconds of that was gear changes, with 1st to 2nd taking the longest time.

Obviously you wont be doing 1st to 2nd hardly ever, if at all, but it has to be a good few seconds in a lap I would reckon.

Back in my K series days, my car felt like a complete slug with a standard Exige box in it compared to the very troublesome Quaife sequential. On its day when the gearbox behaved I reckon the sequential was worth at least 50BHP