Decision

After a couple of days of cogitating, I’ve decided…pretty much…if it all stacks up…

I’m going for a Honda! :astonished:

There is an element of sadness to be leaving the K behind but I think it’s the right thing to do for the future of my track tool. I drive it hard and feel the K is only going to get more expensive to fix down the line and isn’t likely to be as bullet-proof.

Hopefully won’t take too long to sort out either.

Think I’m gonna bung a LSD in there too, any thoughts on that peeps?

Ian :slight_smile:

Ian

I know what just you mean :slight_smile:- I never, ever take my VHPD above 5.5k revs (totally stupid really), think thats why my orig VHPD did 68k miles without lifting the head - when those Honda’s and Audis pass and pull away on the straights I have this nagging feeling to change engines too :slight_smile: - but I must remain strong and resist :wink:

Cheers

Simon

[quote=IDG]
Think I’m gonna bung a LSD in there too, any thoughts on that peeps?

Ian :slight_smile: [/quote]

Pesky won’t speak to ya !!
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I did a little search…

Ha ha, you had some fun there!

I found THIS (clicky) view quite compelling.

I’m interested in better handling as I see it equalling more fun.

But I’d like to hear some negatives and whether anybody thinks it’d hardly be noticed.

Ian :slight_smile:

Ian

Ive now had experience of no LSD and this Angesley an LSD.

Stan thought it made the car, and raved about how much better it was - he though is a sideways rally guy and I was not convinced until the end of the day when I started to be more agressive and found the LSD agve more notice of when you were losing traction, you felt it squirm. With no LSD it just span up a wheel and you didnt really know.

On balance now I’m in just in the pro LSD camp, but I think you need Supercharged power to make it really worthwile.

[quote=jfk][quote=IDG]
Think I’m gonna bung a LSD in there too, any thoughts on that peeps?

Ian :slight_smile: [/quote]

Pesky won’t speak to ya !!
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Not strictly true, you tosser! :smiley:

You were on about fitting an LSD even before you’d been on track with your Exige, so had no idea what it was capable of :smiley:

Andy’s comments are interesting for sure - I know that the Edwards Boyz reckon their Quaiffe LSD is beneficial on track.

Certainly something I’d consider, if the engine/box needs to come out :wink:

Congrats Ian - a good decision I think.

In terms of the LSD - it’s an interesting one, there’s certainly a bit of a divide in terms of whether they are beneficial or not, with some very experienced guys suggesting they aren’t. (I think Randy is in this camp). I think their line is that whilst the LSD might help on the way out of a corner, it can hinder on the way into the corner and prevent the car rotating quite as well.

I think Walshy tried running one in class C for a while, not sure what his feelings are - might be worth asking?

Personally, previous to Anglesey last weekend I’ve only had trouble with the inside rear spinning out of the hairpin at Croft - so I think a lot of the ‘problems’ can be solved with a well-setup car without an LSD.

However, at Anglesey I was struggling quite badly out of the final corner onto the start/finish straight - my tyres were way past their best though and I can still put some harder springs in the rear.

I’d love to try a Quaiffe back to back in my car, and it is on my list of things to perhaps do - I suspect this is the only way you’ll know if it’s for you.

Anyone know what they cost? (assuming I supply a standard box?)

There you go Dave CPL Racing : Tuning Specialists, Honda, Subaru, Nissan

Regarding LSD’s, I believe Scuffers and the boys over in Australia are using ‘Wavetrac’ units to good effect. I think they are somehow adjustable. I’d certainly give one a go if the engine was out

Ian,

I am something of an originality fan, however there was barely a single standard OEM car at Anglesey :frowning:

If i still had the S1 I think that i too would have ‘gone Honda’, but only if the K could b e retro fitted at some point in the future.

Go for it!

Defo the right choice Ian and I honestly don’t think you’ll look back.

Neither of us get out to play as much as we’d like but when we do anything that gives more surety about driving to the circuit, hooning round for the day and still driving home again has to be a good thing.

Also don’t forget as a CTR owner, all your driving miles will be lived north of 8000rpm with 2xHonda K20’s at your disposal!!

Now there’s interesting (love a good dilemma).

It’s true that you’d want an unfettered diff for turn-in (maximum rear-end yaw) and that the more power the more useful an LSD would be (negative arguments slightly deterring me), however, that link talks about slippery conditions, which make power less of a factor and we do live in the UK which provides its fair share of wet trackdays (LSD postive thoughts).

I know it may be tricky for Andy to give as much insight here as he was still getting use to the LSD on Saturday when it was damp but any other thoughts?

Ian :slight_smile:

Some interesting reading here too Ian…

http://forums.seloc.org/viewthread.php?tid=174410&page=1

Jonny from BaT tried my car at Anglesey and highly recommended I get an lsd fitted. I was spinning the inside wheel at rocket on every lap at Anglesey. An LSD will make 300 hp really good fun. If you want to get the back out and have a laugh I would say an LSD is a priority.

Was certainly interesting listening to and watching from the pit lane at Anglesey. The amount of Hondas spinning inside wheels coming onto the start finnish straight and onto the back straight coming down from the top section was impressive, although most were s/c. Don’t think some of the black lines will disappear for a long time! On the other hand, the one Audi car there with an LSD had no problems, running more power and significantly more torque.

The only time that I have experienced a downside, is in a Noble in the wet, as they tend to spin both wheels rather than one. Which is exciting.

If anyone can find me a proper rwd GT/sports car that doesn’t run some sort of LSD, I bet i can find a million that do!

GO on do it. :sunglasses:

Every “Aud-hon-tec” conversion pushes up the values of the few original K series left!!! :smiley: :smiley:

[quote=JDS]the one Audi car there with an LSD had no problems, running more power and significantly more torque.
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I would have to agree. OK Sean is a lot quicker than me, but for the short time I was behind him I just not get on the power as early as him because I just lit up the inside wheel - esp in the morning when it was damp.

[quote=JDS]Was certainly interesting listening to and watching from the pit lane at Anglesey. The amount of Hondas spinning inside wheels coming onto the start finnish straight and onto the back straight coming down from the top section was impressive, although most were s/c. Don’t think some of the black lines will disappear for a long time! On the other hand, the one Audi car there with an LSD had no problems, running more power and significantly more torque.

The only time that I have experienced a downside, is in a Noble in the wet, as they tend to spin both wheels rather than one. Which is exciting.

If anyone can find me a proper rwd GT/sports car that doesn’t run some sort of LSD, I bet i can find a million that do! [/quote]

Do you make any set-up changes for the LSD?

Ian :slight_smile:

With the Quaife diff, not a huge amount. Mostly down to driving style. Plate diffs are another thing altogether - try not to get one of those!

The other audi without the diff was picking up the inside wheel on a couple of corners, so now that it’s popped it’s just about to have a fresh motor & gearbox with an lsd fitted, saying that after following (sorry trying to follow dave p) his car was quicker on the gas out of the tight corners than I was very time :cry: :smiley: