Exige is due its service in early august, and the front pads will need changing… I want to ‘upgrade’ them to something that will be good for the occasional trackday that I do, but mostly fast road use… I know some had upgraded to Pagids… but I’m not sure which ones… recommendations (and where to get them) would be much appreciated…
rs42
eliseparts
imo best to keep them all the same although other’s only change front.
Aggree with Mr D,
I have 14’s on my car which are great on track but no good on the road as the disc and pad glaze up quickly in slow braking situation. (Traffic) I am changing mine for 42’s as soon as I can get some. You must try the motorsport ECU we discussed last week. It is a real improvement both on and off the track. I can’t imagine why you have been given negative feedback. Just ask on this forum and I think every who has had it done is happy.
Good luck anyway.
Ex77
yes… I will try the ecu upgrade for sure… I also heard there are some mintex pads… anyone with experience, or are pagids the only way to go ?
Yup 42s way forward - 14s dont always get on with the ABS - lead to excess (uneven) material build-up - had to throw a set of APs in the bin
I also had to throw a set of ap 5000s in the bin after trying RS 14s and it was only after one session at Hockenheim.
42s are way better on the S2 IMO.
Interesting idea that the ABS can cause probs with the 14s Jamie, whats your theory behind this?
I’m interested to hear more about this. I’ve currently got standard pads on my car and they’re merely adequate for fast road use. I had RS 14s on my S1 and I found them to be fantastic for the way I use the car on the road. I thought I might get the same for my S2, but if there really is a problem with the ABS, then maybe RS42s would be the way to go.
yes… I will try the ecu upgrade for sure… I also heard there are some mintex pads… anyone with experience, or are pagids the only way to go ?
I’m using Mintex 1144 which are a vast improvement over the OEM pads. Far more initial bit and way less fade.
I’ve not tried the RS42s but everyone raves about them. According to what I could gather the RS42’s need a little more heat in them to get to full effect. So for general road use the Mintex might give better bite initially. But, the RS42 are more effective once up to temp so on the track or for continuous fast road they would be a bit better.
Also, most seem to report that the Mintex wear far quicker than the Pagids. But then Mintex are half the price so if you’re doing the changes yourself it’s probably no different really.
Personally, for general fast road use I think the Mintex are fine and it saves another �100. If you’re paying for a dealer to change them all the time might be worth investigating the Pagids a bit more though.
I have also heard a few poeple talk about SBS pads… apparantly, they give 95% of the performance of the pagids and are much cheaper… I would be able to stretch to a full set then, which may overall give me better performance anyway…
and stick like glue to your wheels which inturn kills them
not sure what you mean… bad breakdust issues ?
very much so.
do you have first hand experience ? a few on seloc say they are no worse than Pagids and better then the mintex option
a few as in who ?
Not that many people us them as 42’s just work very well.
I also own a CLio and people have uses PF pads on those and now every one is crying becasue its eating paint and you cannot get the dust off.
bite the bullet and get 42’s they just work wet or dry.
my issue is one of cost… when you say PF, do you mean Performance Friction ? SBS pads are not the same as I understand… so not sure if your thinking of the same pads
I’ve been running RS14s for about 9000 miles (now on second set) without any problems on the road or track. I don’t regularly activate the ABS on track. Its amazing how hard you can hit the pedal at high speed without activating it, and as long as you then ease out as the car slows it wont activate.
I though SBS was PF 
know nothing about SBS pads then lol sorry.
I think Mintex are the nest step which people seem to use if trying to save a few ���
I’ve been running RS14s for about 9000 miles (now on second set) without any problems on the road or track. I don’t regularly activate the ABS on track. Its amazing how hard you can hit the pedal at high speed without activating it, and as long as you then ease out as the car slows it wont activate.
My first set were fine and lasted 6k or something like that. The 2nd set were fitted post 270hp so disc/pad had more work to do (another gear on most straights). I cant say I ever triggered the ABS in the dry as you say you can really stand on the pedal at high speeds. Most of the other cars having RS14 issues have been the 240s and Ss so I would assume that unless you are really giving it some you should be ok in an n/a car with 14s. I guess the point is why take the risk front discs are not cheap!
So can anybody describe how RS14s and RS42s compare for fast road use?
The 14s are a much more aggressive harder pad that take it out the discs a bit more. But you get an amazingly aggressive initial bite and they love high temps.
The 42s are a softer pad with a more progressive initial retardation their preferred temp working window is lower too.
Both can be used on the road 14s are more likely to squeal if you don’t give them hell every so often. In the dry they are very confidence inspiring but in the wet when pressing on the initial bit can be too aggressive (know of at least on LOT race who had that prob at Castle Combe).
For road go for the 42s - softer and better when cold plus kinder to your discs.
For uncompromising braking 14s are amazing!
Here are the specs
RS 14 � BLACK
A high friction, high temperature material with enviable pad life at this level of friction. Very kind to discs, easily modulated, and resistant to wheel lock in extreme use. Suitable for Touring Car, WRC, GT and other forms of medium weight single seater race cars that have good levels of grip
Friction Level Cold 0.44
At 100�C 0.47
At 300�C 0.49
Max 0.54 @ 600�C
Constant working temperature 400 - 700�C
Max temperature for short period only 800�C
RS 4-2 � BLUE
The most popular material, (known as ‘Pagid Blue’), RS4-2 gives a good low temperature response. It is very stable, with superior modulation and feel. RS4-2 has a medium co-efficient of friction with good pad and disc life. Suitable for many applications especially gravel rally and wet tarmac, where control is needed.
Friction Level Cold 0.40
At 100�C 0.42
At 300�C 0.43
Max 0.46 @ 550�C
Constant working temperature 350 - 600�C
Max temperature for short period only 650�C