Air con unit for S1 Exige

Hi

I would like to put an a/c unit in my exige (when its finally rebuilt). Considering that the OEM unit does not get rated much, I was wondering if there are any other options available or if the standard unit can be improved somewhat?

Thanks
Joseph

You need to speak to DUCATIMAN

I don’t hink you have any advance in placing a aircon unit.
I have a AC Exige but all the components are to small to cool the cabin.
When you drive the whole chassis warms up including the back where the exhaust header is located and there is no aircon that can cool down against that,thats my opinion.

The A/C is basically necessary for me even if it is not very effective. Its practically impossible to drive around in summer with 35degC plus weather.
To be clear, My exige is a non A/C model.

I’m no expert, but I don’t know practically how realistic it is to fit AC to a non AC car. The cooling condenser Radiator sits directly below the normal water radiator at the front along with the cooling condenser, this is plumbed to the engine bay by pipes that run I think integral to the chassis. At the base of the engine near the bulkhead is the AC pump (I think a Toyota unit) that is belt driven. The pump is common but sits on a bespoke bracket.

To the earlier comment the car is a heat sync so it’s wholly ineffective. Fitting it moves the alternator and led to the common issue of the alternator being close to the exhaust and they themselves overheating and burning out. Mine has the common mod of dumping the AC in favour of a relocated alternator for reliability.

I think the whole design is one of the cars foibles …

Hmm. So how do the Toyota cars manage with the A/C? Is it hopeless there as well? Maybe it is possible to retrofit a Toyota system?
Retro fitting should not be much of a problem apart from making access and fitting properly the high and low pressure pipes that run in the RH fiberglass sill.

The alternator issue I am sure can be solved later. And I would give up reliability there to have the A/C. I can make a warning lamp to show if the battery is charging and if it stops its only a few kms to tow back anyway :smiley:

Another option that I have read about is the unit used in Malasia market S1s. Only cooling unit with no heater. Anyone have pictures for this?

Can I just say that I find my A/C pretty effective. I know I’m in the minority but for me it’s a positive extra despite the weight penalty.

Not been around for a while Joseph, hope you’re well…

Just removed mine (have an S1 now) http://www.exiges.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19029

Heater is different, so is the ducting from the crash structure. Gaining access to the sill is easy enough as you’ll see but you’ll have to reposition the washer bottle and battery slightly to accommodate the evaporator. Condesor fits under the rad. You’ll need a new battery tray, alternator bracket and a few other bits as well as loads of pipe work. TBH it was probably bang on back in the day but these days it looks a bit of a mess. Then there’s the ECU, axillary pump, the second fan, resistor, switches, recirculation to take into account as well as the electrics. It’s a tough one mate, possibly unlikely IMO.

FairPlay :smiley: 15kg :thumbup:

I can lose 15KG on a diet! I’ll just have to take up running and stop eating! :crazy:

Lol I feel the same way :smiley:

I have a couple of ex aircon bits relating to the repositioned washer bottle if you are still contemplating this job.
Cheers.

an evapourator unt maybe ?

Sorry Andy it evapourated long ago! :lolno:

The AC is reasonable good in an S2, not sure if it would be possible to retrofit it, as JDS has had just about every flavour of Exige in bits, he might be able to give some advice on if the S2 system could be made to fit.

Biggest challenges of making the S2 aircon stuff fit in an S1 is that there is also a battery in the front of an Exige where you would want to fit it, and the controls on an S1 are all cable and S2 are all electric.

Yes life took over and the car had to wait. :slight_smile:
Now things are calming down a bit so hopefully I can manage to fix it back.

I will see if I can adapt a system to it. I do not intend to fit the AC exige forward dash vents. So I was just thinking of using the top vents and making everything simple with regards to switches and control. Just fan and A/C on off.

Anyone has spare, useless exige parts I can buy? Looking for condensor/evaporator/drier etc…

Also if someone knows where I can find some pictures of the malasia elise S1 system it would be great. I dont really need a heater…

Yes sure let me know what you have please and how much you want for them :slight_smile:

Thanks
Joseph

Hmm will try to find a few pics to get an idea. If I use a small battery would that make things easier or does the S2 unit take all the space in the area behind the crash box?