OK, I’m aware I probably going over old ground here BUT why has nobody designed a side pod mounted heat exchanger? It would vastly reduce the fitting costs (potentially fit with rear clam in place?) and if using enlarged pods and freeing up the roof vent to cool the engine bay then would this ensure little affect on engine bay temps?
Probably a very stupid question…
Cheers,
Rob
Has all the same issues with a lack the of airflow to the heat exchanger as putting a A/A one there, not enough direct airflow.
Just to add VF do an A/A one
http://www.visionfunction.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48&Itemid=57
it seems quite good and possibly gets more air than the Exige roof scoop
and Sincs do and upgrade to the Katana with a side mounted A/W but the heat exchanger is still up the front.
http://www.sinclairemotorsport.com/content/upgrades/upg_toyota.html
Essex/Sincs sell the VF kit…The VF kits are puttin out 280+rwhp with their side mount A/A intercooler…
I would install the heatexchangers to the front for better air flow and weight distribution…remember the Exige is 40/60 adding any aditional weight foward such as the battery and heatexchangers will only help balance the car.
Wow, I’m surprised at that. I would have thought that bigger side scoops and fans on the heat exchanger would have been fine?
[quote=frank]Essex/Sincs sell the VF kit…The VF kits are puttin out 280+rwhp with their side mount A/A intercooler…
I would install the heatexchangers to the front for better air flow and weight distribution…remember the Exige is 40/60 adding any aditional weight foward such as the battery and heatexchangers will only help balance the car.[/quote]
Good point RE balance. I guess I’m just looking at labour costs and ease of future maintenance.
A/W heat exchanger or A/A cooler in the side pod will have exactly the same airflow through it as it would be in the same place, if you add A/W the largest benefit is moving the heat exchanger to the front of the car, this gives you a greater surface area and airflow to cool the water therefore keeping the charge temps lower for longer.
I just don’t understand this? It’s not a case of continuos airflow but more a case of the ability of the water to deal with ‘shock’ due to its capacitance? Sorry, I should add that its a question rather than a statement of fact! On the move a significant amount of air must pass thorough an ‘augmented’ scoop? If at standstill how could it be any worse (re airflow) than a front mount? Is it related to surface area available? Again, these are questions, I’m not trying to contradict, just trying to understand what others have already experienced.
Cheers,
Rob
I can only speak for my own setup…I run four heatexchangers, A/A oil coolers are now heatexchangers, a 8x28" vertical unit at mouth of inlet and Pro-Alloy unit under the AC condenser…There are two pusher and two puller fans mounted on the stacked unit…
The puller fans are on a manual control so that I can run the fans to cool the water long before it begins to remove heat…even in traffic.
Not sure what standstill has to do with it?
I looked at this when I first went to see Wayne at Proalloy to make me the charge cooler setup (mine was the first they made) I discussed it at length with Wayne, he pointed out the airflow to the front of the car is significantly higher than possible from the side scoop and the surface area available to fit the heat exchanger is much greater this will mean you can shed more heat. At standstill there is very little heat build up in the system as there is a natural air movement in the front as the rad is on its side so it will draw cold air from under as the hot air escapes upwards.
It is all aboutsurface area and airflow at the end of the day if both setups have a similar level of efficiency.
What’s the thought on the VF set up?
[quote=ade]Just to add VF do an A/A one
http://www.visionfunction.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48&Itemid=57
it seems quite good and possibly gets more air than the Exige roof scoop
and Sincs do and upgrade to the Katana with a side mounted A/W but the heat exchanger is still up the front.
http://www.sinclairemotorsport.com/content/upgrades/upg_toyota.html
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There was somebody marketing the VF in the UK but it seems very quiet so maybe nobody has bought, the Sincs conversion is well known and proven in the UK whereas the VF is a US product so you might struggle with after care if you can get one?
Thanks Adrian, that makes sense!
The VF kit is excellent and has its tuning by Charlie, Essex carry the kit and can do a custom tune if needed…
The supercharger is the same MP62 used in the Exige with no issues…
I am right in thinking it is an A/A kit?
The VF kit is A/A