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Re: 211 or Caterham

Post by Benja » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:03 pm

OK I’m biased, but if you want a track-only car then an R300 is pretty hard to beat. So fast, so much fun, light on its feet,..just an awesome little thing :cool:

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Re: 211 or Caterham

Post by jonnyfox » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:29 pm

gp_fisher wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:46 pm
Just read all the kind helpful replies 👍

I think you are right Gav regarding replacement parts, price wise and being obtainable for the 211.

I think the R300 with the Sadev would be fantastic Jonny, one of the reasons I thought a Sigma might be good was so that the boys would be able to use the car too. They have now reached the age that it would be affordable to insure, it might be a good car for them to start having driver tuition in. What do you think Mate? It's probably me that really needs the tuition though 😉
By the way how is the family and the weekend football ⚽ going.

Mark I hope you and the family are well too and I presume your Dad is fighting fit and still enjoying his Exige 😁

Thommo great to hear from you I will give you a call for a catch up 👍
All good my end Pete, busy as ever. Running the team still, great lads and wonderful parents.

Phil and Sarah who maintain our cars now have a rental R300 , happy to pass on their number buddy for you to try...
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Re: 211 or Caterham

Post by SimonE » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:15 pm

211 everytime for me - in the hands of a half decent driver they are absolutely peerless :) and they are Lotus :)

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Re: 211 or Caterham

Post by 661 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:41 pm

jonnyfox wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:29 pm
gp_fisher wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:46 pm
Just read all the kind helpful replies 👍

I think you are right Gav regarding replacement parts, price wise and being obtainable for the 211.

I think the R300 with the Sadev would be fantastic Jonny, one of the reasons I thought a Sigma might be good was so that the boys would be able to use the car too. They have now reached the age that it would be affordable to insure, it might be a good car for them to start having driver tuition in. What do you think Mate? It's probably me that really needs the tuition though 😉
By the way how is the family and the weekend football ⚽ going.

Mark I hope you and the family are well too and I presume your Dad is fighting fit and still enjoying his Exige 😁

Thommo great to hear from you I will give you a call for a catch up 👍
All good my end Pete, busy as ever. Running the team still, great lads and wonderful parents.

Phil and Sarah who maintain our cars now have a rental R300 , happy to pass on their number buddy for you to try...
I’ve had two very memorable days with my son in the rental. Worth a try first before splashing the cash. it was a roadsport, perfectly adequate. They were considering purchasing a ‘well known’ R 300. JF may know more. If available , the sequential is epic.
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Re: 211 or Caterham

Post by gp_fisher » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:29 pm

I have been looking into a nice R300 K series 160 with low mileage and also considering an Elise S2 SC. Either one of these would be suitable for T/D work and relatively affordable to buy and maintain, also a good starting point for the boys 😀 without worrying too much 😉

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Re: 211 or Caterham

Post by thommo » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:24 pm

Caterham! Every time.

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Re: 211 or Caterham

Post by winthattt » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:19 pm

Peter,

I’ve only just seen this thread. I have a Caterham Academy Sigma and my son has just done his first full track day following a few laps shared with me a couple of months ago. He loved it and car was great and he was very brisk. An academy car is slow with only 125hp but it’s still fun. The Sigma engine and Mazda box are unburstable. It can’t keep pace with a r300 but with bigger/better tyres and a antirollbar should be the same on corners. Mine is wibbly wobbly and teaches you to drive, I’m still learning.

I’ve had mine for three years and it has needed tyres, discs, pads, a new engine mount and a new de Dion tube (and new rear cycle wings). If you get a Sigma get one with the Vtti cam timing, it’s allowed in many more race series and can easily be adjusted to 160hp which I believe is much more brisk. I may be selling it ... I want a car we can store at home and drive to track days, I’m not brave enough to drive it on the road.

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Re: 211 or Caterham

Post by gp_fisher » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:27 pm

Hi Keith seems quite a while ago since we last met at Croft, that was the last T/D that I did in my Red Exige V6. I hope you are keeping well 👍
Thanks for the info regarding a Sigma I didn't know they had a Mazda gearbox, do you know what diff they use? I presume the one I have been looking at has the adjustable timing as it already has 140 bhp.

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Re: 211 or Caterham

Post by winthattt » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:35 am

gp_fisher wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:27 pm
Hi Keith seems quite a while ago since we last met at Croft, that was the last T/D that I did in my Red Exige V6. I hope you are keeping well 👍
Thanks for the info regarding a Sigma I didn't know they had a Mazda gearbox, do you know what diff they use? I presume the one I have been looking at has the adjustable timing as it already has 140 bhp.
The standard open diff is BMW if it has a LSD I think they are Titan. The vtti came in in 2014, very easy to tell, you can see a solenoid sticking out of each side of the cam cover near the timing belt. Bookatrack mechanics tell me they have never had a Sigma engine fail but, they used to have a lot more duratecs so it’s unfair to assume one is better than the other.

I wish I could remember names and faces, I remember a red v6 at Croft!

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Re: 211 or Caterham

Post by gp_fisher » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:57 pm

Hi Keith yes it was the Red one with black tri stripes and the fruity exhaust, I remember you saying that you liked the sound but were surprised that it passed the d/b test 😉 especially at Croft.
I will have a look at the solenoids to check and see if they are fitted. I presume that the BMW diff is quite robust 😃

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