Just to be clear - I’ve no vested interest in the companies mentioned above, and I’m certainly not here to promote!
p.s.
when did exiges.com become seloc!?
I think that’s the point I was making about keeping it objective and friendly…let’s all have a cuddle 
I think that’s the point I was making about keeping it objective and friendly…let’s all have a cuddle [/quote]
…and thats whats great about this forum
Do you both have Superchargers or what…GET A ROOM :whistle: 
[quote=jonnyfox]Do you both have Superchargers or what…GET OHLINS :whistle:
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Fixed that for you jonny
[quote=N17VES]
Interested to know the benefit of theh 46mm Nitons, I thought it was just reduced friction with the wider body? If so, will this only really benefit in racing/endurance when performance of the shocks are dropping off - similar to the mono tube vs twin tube argument? [/quote]
With the larger 46mm piston, for a given damper movement more oil is displaced, this basically means more oil is moved so its much easier to control the start of the piston movement. This leads to a reduction in the crashyness of the damper during small movements.
Twin tube dampers by there design run a much smaller piston (usually about 1 inch) the oil displaced by the pistion rod going into the damper displaces into the gap between the two tubes.
I had nitrons on my 1st exige and they were needing a rebuild after 11 months due to leaking damper oil, when i raised the point with the supplier I was told that they leaked because my car was a daily driver and that the nitrons were better suited to track driving…(?) not good enough in my opinion. I’m now about to fit some 2 way ohlins which i got for a good price from junks otherwise i’d also be going for the quantums - i’ve only read good things about them and if they’re good enough to tempt some of the lotus series drivers away from their nitrons they must be alright.
Over the years I’ve had AST, Koni, KW and other shock brands fitted to my cars and in my book the build quality on my nitrons back in '07 was that they were a bit ropey.
[quote=seriouslylotus][quote=N17VES]
Interested to know the benefit of theh 46mm Nitons, I thought it was just reduced friction with the wider body? If so, will this only really benefit in racing/endurance when performance of the shocks are dropping off - similar to the mono tube vs twin tube argument? [/quote]
With the larger 46mm piston, for a given damper movement more oil is displaced, this basically means more oil is moved so its much easier to control the start of the piston movement. This leads to a reduction in the crashyness of the damper during small movements.
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Correct, IIRC approx. 70% more oil is allowed to flow in the 46mm damper over the 36mm’s for the same given movement even though it is only a 10mm bigger piston. More oil flow allows for finer/better control of the dampening effects.
General rule of thumb with suspension components is quite simple guys - The more you spend the better you get!
[quote=TarmacTerrorist][quote=seriouslylotus][quote=N17VES]
Interested to know the benefit of theh 46mm Nitons, I thought it was just reduced friction with the wider body? If so, will this only really benefit in racing/endurance when performance of the shocks are dropping off - similar to the mono tube vs twin tube argument? [/quote]
With the larger 46mm piston, for a given damper movement more oil is displaced, this basically means more oil is moved so its much easier to control the start of the piston movement. This leads to a reduction in the crashyness of the damper during small movements.
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Correct, IIRC approx. 70% more oil is allowed to flow in the 46mm damper over the 36mm’s for the same given movement even though it is only a 10mm bigger piston. More oil flow allows for finer/better control of the dampening effects.
General rule of thumb with suspension components is quite simple guys - The more you spend the better you get! [/quote]
NTR nitrons are 40mm, Quantum 41mm, Nitron street series 36mm and Ohlins 36mm (lotus supplied) IIRC - its sad I know, but I find the techy bits facinating.
Is the finer/better control of the bump a bit worthless if going for singleway shocks?
[quote=jonnyfox]Do you both have Superchargers or what…GET A ROOM :whistle:
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Yeah I have got a charger what of it biatch 
Don’t take it out on me because you’ve got trouble knocking the skin off yer rice pudding 
Back on topic I think Gav hit the nail on the head, from my limited experience with dampers like many other components you get what you pay for.
Ben, love your avatar, that was a very cool drive!!!
Side by side in one lane of a single carrigeway road with both of us doing rolling burnouts, while sitting in a queue of road works traffic. Classic.
[quote=SeanB]Ben, love your avatar, that was a very cool drive!!!
Side by side in one lane of a single carrigeway road with both of us doing rolling burnouts, while sitting in a queue of road works traffic. Classic. [/quote]
…and then looking in my rear view mirror to see you doing a slalom through the cones 
,…then me enthusiastically in the lead driving down the middle of that road (rather rapidly) when the rest of the traffic had stopped (with all three mirrors full of ruby red exige). It was indeed a classic drive
OMG GET A ROOM GAY BOYS!
Suspension is there to serve 2 purposes, passenger comfort and to keep the tyres in contact with the road. The better control you have over the contact of tyre and road the better you can accelerate, brake and corner. Added to that you get much better feel and feedback as to what is happening with that interaction.
lol - maybe if you can endow yourself with a manly amount of power over the winter we’ll let you join our convoy to Wales next year…if not set off a couple of hours before us and we’ll catch you up
[quote=N17VES][quote=TarmacTerrorist][quote=seriouslylotus][quote=N17VES]
Interested to know the benefit of theh 46mm Nitons, I thought it was just reduced friction with the wider body? If so, will this only really benefit in racing/endurance when performance of the shocks are dropping off - similar to the mono tube vs twin tube argument? [/quote]
With the larger 46mm piston, for a given damper movement more oil is displaced, this basically means more oil is moved so its much easier to control the start of the piston movement. This leads to a reduction in the crashyness of the damper during small movements.
[/quote]
Correct, IIRC approx. 70% more oil is allowed to flow in the 46mm damper over the 36mm’s for the same given movement even though it is only a 10mm bigger piston. More oil flow allows for finer/better control of the dampening effects.
General rule of thumb with suspension components is quite simple guys - The more you spend the better you get! [/quote]
NTR nitrons are 40mm, Quantum 41mm, Nitron street series 36mm and Ohlins 36mm (lotus supplied) IIRC - its sad I know, but I find the techy bits facinating.
Is the finer/better control of the bump a bit worthless if going for singleway shocks?
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No the fine bump is far from worthless on a one way,you get the finer adjustment on bump and rbound its just the relationship between the two is determined when the damper is built/shimmed.
Just for info the Nitron make dampers in 30mm 35mm 38mm(street series) 40mm 46mm and 50mm Street series are 38mm
lol - maybe if you can endow yourself with a manly amount of power over the winter we’ll let you join our convoy to Wales next year…if not set off a couple of hours before us and we’ll catch you up [/quote]
HAHA
Man up NA boy!!!
Johnny Dude!
Whats all this about ROOM’s tonight!!!
As one old Shackelton pilot said to another… '8 screws is nice, but I would rather be ‘blown’…!
FFS, Get yourself supercharged mate! Then you would’nt have to spend bucks on new gear ratios!!!
New gear ratios and forced induction is totally where it is at!!
[quote=pete757]Johnny Dude!
Whats all this about ROOM’s tonight!!!
As one old Shackelton pilot said to another… '8 screws is nice, but I would rather be ‘blown’…!
FFS, Get yourself supercharged mate! Then you would’nt have to spend bucks on new gear ratios!!! [/quote]
Nope