JFK/Anyone
Is it legal to use Avgas in a road car? Simple yes or no will do
JFK/Anyone
Is it legal to use Avgas in a road car? Simple yes or no will do
[quote=Mr Pesky]JFK/Anyone
Is it legal to use Avgas in a road car? Simple yes or no will do [/quote]
I would think ānoā 'cos it would be like using red diesel in a road vehicle, ie. duty differences would lead to an HMRC wrist-slapping! If youāre caught, that is (and the colourās a giveaway)ā¦
So itās definitely a criminal offence on the road, & possibly classed as ācheatingā in competitive motorsport then?
Itās definitely classed as cheating in motor sportā¦
Bugga!
Doesnāt stop use in a trackday only car though?
Only cheating when you get caught!!!
Probably a little more than creative interpretation thoughā¦
Dave
Thatās the one thing about motorsport that really pisses me off - the cheating that goes on at ALL levels, & I donāt just mean rule bending, or pushing the envelope. Some years ago, in the Mid Engined Series a certain person was using race fuel in his Elise - quite a distinctive odour that stuff produces! Eventually, his car was burnt to a crisp, so that was one less cheat to worry about for the guys playing by the rules.
Itās always interesting to read the disciplinary hearing results published by the MSA - cheating & punch ups prevail!
Where is the pleasure/honour in winning by cheating???
Used to annoy me when I was competing regularly in the UK (some years ago, now). Interestingly it was far less prevalent in bigger series, eg. I did some FIA GT and GrandAm in 2001-03.
Whether that was because teams had more to lose or because the seriesā had full-time regular scrutineers who got to know the cars so could spot changes, itās hard to sayā¦or maybe the rule-bending was juts far more subtle so I didnāt see it!!!
Thatās quite a penalty if you are caught
Thatās quite a penalty if you are caught [/quote]
Was on a trackday, although the irony wasnāt lost
I agree, cheating in motorsport is very wide spread. The thing that annoyed me, was when you did well, the first thing out of everyoneās mouth āoh he must be cheatingā
When I raced my S1, because it was turbo charged, so quite easy to fiddle with, everyone was convinced I was taking the piss, and I genuinely wasnāt all of the time.
Will never forget at Brands, the truck from the fuel supplier turning up, and shouting over the paddock āIāve got some 102 octance race fuel for a Mr. X here, where do you want it?ā When we were all supposed to be running pump fuel!
Much running around and red faces ensued!
ahhhā¦I think there were some fairly dramatic photos of that incidentā¦was it at Bedford?
lol at SeanB and Mr Pesky who have turboās and super chargers bolted onto their none K series engines! Thatās most definitely cheating.
P.S (n/a rocks)
Iām afraid that if I were competing, Iād strictly play by the letter, & the spirit of the rules to which Iād signed up to. Perhaps Iām just not the competitive type?
Genuine mistakes can happen - Evosal is not really a āCheating Northern Monkeyā, despite getting confused about acceptable bhp
I used to buy 205 litre barrels of Toluene and mix it 50:50 with petrol some years back for my Supra. I had to mix far less in winter because it was a right sod to start due to vaporisation issues. But once it warmed up a bit it really moved, talk about cheap octane boosterā¦
It worked out to about ĆÆĀæĀ½1 a gallon for the Toluene and I burned several barrels of it. Of course I never used it on the roadā¦
Phil
Lol, the confusion was between power at the hubs and flywheel power, Nigel told cpl racing it was 350 at the hubs.
Thats what happens when you leave a numpty in charge of your race prep
[quote=Philm]I used to buy 205 litre barrels of Toluene and mix it 50:50 with petrol some years back for my Supra. I had to mix far less in winter because it was a right sod to start due to vaporisation issues. But once it warmed up a bit it really moved, talk about cheap octane boosterā¦
It worked out to about ĆÆĀæĀ½1 a gallon for the Toluene and I burned several barrels of it. Of course I never used it on the roadā¦
Phil [/quote]
How many people have gone off to google toluene!! I thought it was the stuff they put in Red Bull
Toluene is one of the 'Tās in TNTā¦